Ptolemy, Mallon, Greb discussed on The Astrology Podcast
Book, three of the end Thala g the length of life technique, the technique that. That, incorporates, the predominate, or in order to attempt to calculate the length of a person's life, which inches tall Gers considered to be not just possible, but a very important technique that you need it to us to some extent with clients Valluns and other astrologers at this point when they get the length of life technique, and they start talking about the predominates that tends to be when they will introduce the other forms of house division of what I call to Greb, aced forms of house division, which includes equal houses, which is a degree based form of house division, but also quadrant, house systems. So it's at this point. So Valance introduces quadrant. Houses, actually introduces the poor free house system when he starts talking about calculating the predominate or which is interesting because it's like elsewhere. This is in book, three of the unthought G. And if you back up to book too. To where he starts, using example charts uses several dozen example, charts, all using whole sign houses. But then for some reason when he gets to this specific technique of calculating the predominates, then he stops and he introduces quadrant houses for the first time. And what's interesting as he, he introduces it as if it's a concept that he wasn't otherwise using up to that point, or that required being used or being introduced because the reader, wouldn't be taking it for granted up until that point. So it's almost like it's something unique to this technique and away that he's introducing within the context of this specis specific technique is quadrant houses. So interestingly Ptolemy, does something simple or something similar where basically. In Ptolemy, most of the time in his text. He when he's just he refers to the houses in passing. And he seems to often refer to them as signs is if he's using whole sign houses, just like Mallon's is in most of the other like different topical chapters of his book, like when he when he talks about, like, children or marriage or career or what have you. He seems to refer to the, the, the houses the told houses as if they're signs, but then all the sudden just like Mallon's when he gets to the length of life technique, he introduces this other form of house division where he stops and suddenly becomes very deliberate about outlining this other approach and historically, there's actually been allotted to be it's about what system of house division told me introduced at this point, but the two modern translators who have commented on this are Robert Schmidt and James Holden. In who were to the only modern astrologer contemporary astrologers in modern times both of them have passed away in the past few years now. But the to the only people that read Greek and translated, this chapter of Ptolemy so that they could, you know, be able to say something about it. And they both said that they thought that Ptolemy was introducing equal houses at this point based on their reading of the Greek. But it was kind of a weird modified form of house of equal houses where it started five degrees above the ascendant. So it was the it's the it's it sounds weird, but it's the ancestor of, and it's the origin of the modern, like five degree rule were astrologers will say, well, if a planet is within five degrees of the cusp of house, and you interpreted as being in the next house, or interpreted, as being in both houses, or whatever. Right. You know, it's sort of varies, but that's the ancestor of this is going back to Ptolemy and in this chapter on the length of life technique, told me introduces, what seems to be equal houses, but he says that it begins or the power of the house extends five degrees before the actual starting point. So five degrees above the ascendant, again, the. Okay. So, so this is strange intimate self, and this is important in terms of the history of the house division. Go over this whole thing of it. I go through this whole thing talking about this in my chapter, because I wrote like a long chapter on house, division and forgot to.