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Tracey. Welcome thanks gave. Thanks for having me. I'm super excited. Well it is. It is my pleasure to have you so it. Seems like decluttering organization hoarding. It's everywhere these days about a decade ago. The television show hoarders. I think was probably like the big flagship but Home Organization. Just seems like it's really hit fever pitch. Why do you think that is you know? I think it's a combination of our easy access to shopping. So cheap. Consumer Goods Amazon delivers in the day. You can get your groceries. I like to joke without even having to put your pants on into cardiac liver right away and then also we live in such a world of visual bombardment. Pinterest instagram facebook. That does being sent these messages of how people think our homes are supposed to look you know before it just used to be a magazine a newspaper television but now it's like you see the perfect home on instagram. You see it on Pinterest. You see it on facebook you see it on the magazine you see it online. You know there's ten different channels coming out. You and I think people are really starting to take stock of how much stuff they actually have and how. It's not really working for them. One of the things that I noticed in preparing for this show is that you really talk about clutter. You don't talk about hoarding now. Is there a difference between hoarding and clutter or de-hoarding decluttering? How do you separate those two concepts? Hoarding is an actual disorder. I am not a therapist. I cannot diagnose it there couple of great resources online. If you're worried that you have cording disorder for a long time. They thought that hoarding was a symptom of obsessive compulsive disorder. But in the last couple of years they have separated out as its own disorders so it is an actual mental disorder. Clutter is just having too much stuff. So and that's not to say that there's one way that everybody should live. You know I'm a single person. I live mostly by myself. I have a certain amount of step a family of five absolutely going to have more stuff than I do. But the way that I describe clutter. Gabe is that clutter is the stuff that gets in the way of what you WANNA do. So for instance. You WanNa have dinner at your dining room table. But you can't because it's covered with three four five days worth of mail. The kids sports equipment a sweater. You need to return to your mom or you want to get dressed in the morning without you know having to pull everything out of your closet. A lot of people just get dressed out of their laundry basket because their closet is so full of clothes that they can't access it and use it as a tool so it's really the difference between too much stuff and then that's stuff that you have the clutter you've written in emotional story about so you we have created some story about why we can't let go of it. Either what I called the seven emotional clutter blocks and we all really have at least one some of us have couple more. But everybody's got at least one and what are the seven emotional clutter blocks so clutter block number. One is what I call. My stuff keeps me stuck in the past. You know. These are my parents whose kids have gone away to college yet. They still have their bedrooms. Saved exactly as a museum. This is keeping close that we can't fit into anymore. This is our staff telling us that our best days are behind us and to a certain extent. Isn't that also where our memories come from though like how do you separate the stuff that keeps me in the past? Because they're closed that haven't fit since high school and the stuff that keeps me in the past as in family heirlooms. It's when we attach to that right when we think. Oh I'm going to get back in those clothes you know. Of course the family heirlooms are the things that you look at. You know they make you happy and they remind you of your grandmother. I'm not saying that step. I'm saying if you have a closet. The other day and her linen closet re of the shell the five. Shell were full of artwork that our kids had made in preschool and elementary school. Her kids are grownups now. Their doctors so this stuff that her kids had created which while one or two of the Turkey hands were fantastic. I don't know if she needed all Edebali Right. Like sweet memories and that reminded her of it but she had three shelves in her linen closet that she couldn't use because she was stuck in the past. She didn't want to let go of when her kids were. Little makes perfect sense and then clutter block number two cutter. Black number. Two is my stuff tells me who I am? The best way to describe this clutter block is a client. Said to me with her hand on her hip. How can I possibly be lonely? I have two hundred pairs of shoes. You know this is our identity. This is the designer labels this is. I'm not lonely because I'm out of the sale at Nordstrom's this is really using our stuff as our identity and do a Lotta senior downsizing so it helps seniors move from lifelong homes into smaller spaces and I see this a lot with my older gentlemen. Who used to fix the car? Used to do the handiwork around the house you know really identified being helper in the family and now that they're older and maybe can't get up on a ladder. It's really hard for them. To let go of who they used to be. Emotional clutter block number three. If I am correct. It's the stuff that you're avoiding absolutely and full confession. I am a clutter block number three. I have it. I go a week without opening my mail so this is not opening our mail. This is not paying our taxes. This is not doing the business of being grown up and the interesting thing gave about this one. The people who tend to be very very successful at their job almost always seem to have letter block number three that they're really really successful work but then when they come home they avoid doing their grownup stuff. I completely agree with that. I feel that my day while I'm at work is when I am an adult and my time at home is when I can enjoy life and a lot of the stuff that I'm avoiding is stuff that I know is just going to make me unhappy. We'll just go with GONNA say angry unhappy annoyed so it can wait till tomorrow right absolutely and also this is an absolute block. Because you think I'm so together at work of course got it together at home. I'll get to that stuff eventually. So it's this story that we've told ourselves but what happens with this clutter block especially you know. This is the one that can end up costing you a lot of money right. You don't pay your taxes or you get behind in fees and interest like this is the one that can really do some damage. Also when that's like just put your big girl pants on and open your mail. Just do it. You GotTa do it now. This next one really spoke to me personally because I think that I'm definitely guilty of it. So emotional clutter block. Number four is my fantasy stuff for my fantasy life. I am so guilty of this county. What what do you? What do you fantasize you're GONNA be or should be so for me? I just keep thinking that I need to hang onto certain things because I'm GonNa need it in the future for example as soon as my podcast gets on. Sirius Satellite Radio. I'm going to need all of this equipment. This equipment is not doing me any good and when I'm even going to say when Sirius Satellite Radio comes a calling. They're not gonNA want my crappy equipment but I just believe if I get rid of it. I had limited my choices. And that's really the emotional part right absolutely. I believe that this stuff is connected to my success. Even though your going to tell me that it's not and you're right by the way you're you're so right and the great thing about that example in Vancouver Sherry is that you know what Sirius Xm radio has you studios beautiful equipment. They have the best of the best so while I love that. That's a goal for you like get the fantasy part out of it. Get into the reality of it again. That goes back to. You're not living the life that you're living right now. You're not happy with what you have. You're not focusing on. This is the equipment that I used to do. My podcast and it works. It's fantastic all this other stuff. I don't use but when I look at it. I remind myself that I'm not where I WANNA be. Not necessarily in a good way. It becomes a stumbling block absolutely this one. I see a lot around fitness equipment. These are the people who go. You know what I need to be. I need to be a rock climber. My life would be perfect. If I'm a rock climber. So they go out and they buy all the equipment they don't rent it they don't borrow it. They buy all the equipment. The shoes little bags with the chalk and they get up the rock and they're like I'm scared of heights or I don't like this at all and then they've gotten all this stuff with this thing that they think they should be and they're not and then they get angry at themselves. Why should be that? It's like no if you're not a rock climber you're still a really good