Understanding Photography Education with Darlene Hildebrandt


Welcome back to another episode of this week and vote on your host. Frederik van Johnson. Today have the distinct honor and pleasure of having a an longtime friend of mine. Darlene Hildebrandt on the show to discuss a topic. That's near and dear to both of our hearts and that's education and we'll topics education and photography. We're GONNA talk about both of those and it's more specifically what's Kinda the state of the Union in that area. Is it still save your money? Go to a brick and mortar school. Is it by a bunch of workshops? Forget all that and just learned from. Youtube is it by courses online. Darlene is here to demystify all that for us and and sort of dive into it. Yeah Darlene how you doing? It's long time no see Ed. Flynn too long. Frederic. How are you? I'm doing good I'm good. It's going to see your face. You never change smiling faces always exactly the same. I like it so few more as my hairdresser called sparkly sparkley hairs. Ono's I love those. That's good that is good. It means you each one means you're wiser than people that don't have cancer. Barclays sparklys roller Before we dive into the meat of the conversation I want to talk about the Just sort of you know the state of your union. The State of Digital Photo Mentor DOT COM. And all that stuff you know what's new and great. Yeah the world that you build. You've got a storied history. I mean you've worked with amazing companies. You've been in the education space as long as I have at least so what's what's going on. What are you guys working on? What you building. What is the? What's the state of the Union? So about as you mentioned. I've been involved in the education of photographers for awhile. Now I've been teaching locally for eight years already and I was the managing editor of digital photography school. Dps for five years. And I left. Eps A year ago to branch out and expand my own horizons and they wished me well. And you know we're all on good terms and we still talk and that's great And just in the last year we've been building Lor Tara fee tours. I've been to India and Vietnam and Peru in the last twelve months I posted on my facebook awhile ago that in the last few months. I've been on twenty seven actual different airplanes and been to seven different countries. Wow that is so so you know what that means. It means so we're we in the beginning. We decided to focus this interview on education. Clearly there needs to be another one that talks about travel and how to do it without losing all your stuff. Yeah and I think they go hand in hand together as well travel and photography and education because on the tours is a great opportunity for people who aren't usually in sort of immersed in photography as a day to day endeavor. It gives them a chance to. That's all they're focused on is taking pictures and learning about their camera every single day for two weeks or whatever it is and just by most. They're gonNA go home with with some more knowledge in. Just just just the idea of putting yourself out of your comfort zone right. It's like whenever even if it's just like for me even if it's just going to the next town over or into San Francisco and the burbs of San Francisco going into San Francisco proper. You get a different energy and it kinda starts tickling different creative synapses that make you WANNA try stuff. So that's so let. Let's switch gears and talk about education so set the stage here so there's there's the different modalities of learning right. Some people learn better by having their butt in a seat in an instructor in front of the class is some people learn better solo. Some people learn better one on one. Some people you know. Hey Youtube. Give Me Youtube and a topic. I'll figure it out in a deconstruct. My favorite photograph that way. Some people need online courses. That are focused on a particular subject or topic. How do you? What's best you know from from the photo mentor herself? What's the what's the best process to going from people saying? Hey Jane You. You might have chops as a photographer. You should really pursue this too actually being good. How do you get good so I think the key you missed one? Actually one modality of learning that is by doing and I think Like I talked about the semi classes when I teach in person classes and I actually have one last night We talked about the basics of processing last night. And you learn either There's actually studies done on this. You learn by either listening to somebody else speak so that could be a video or in person alive class Or by reading rain so any book or something like that or by doing and I think I think most people learn best with a combination of all three right so in my live classes I try incorporate a little bit of everything right so I have them write their own notes. A have them listen to me for a while and then we actually you know. Get their cameras out. We're actually doing style for computers if we're doing processing By doing like if I go way back in my history right like we're going back thirty years now. I'M GONNA date myself here again. The the sparkly airs Thirty plus years ago I went to college. Did a two year program. Which was you know? Degree program if Star Affi and I've been asked that question is if I was to do it all over again now. Would I do that? You know there's been debates about college programs like you mention and what I do that and I can't honestly say with certainty that I would at in this day and age because there's so many other avenues available that you can learn from like you said Youtube and all of those things what college does give you and what a lot of my students always ask me and my classes win. Am I going to get it? When is there going to be this magic? A Ha moment the light bulbs going to go on and then all of a sudden you know I understand my camera and understand light and all these other things and my answer is always the saying when you put in your ten thousand hours rain and if you're doing a college program course where you're doing it every day and you have homework you're GONNA get your ten thousand hours faster range you you're someone wants told me. I forget who it was. Someone wants us the same sort of ten thousand our analogy but they were saying from a photographer standpoint. Just think of your shutter finger as being filled with one million bad images and the only way to get to the good ones to get the bad ones out. Because it's linear right so it just take you gotTa keep taking pictures to get. Isn't that a cartoon persona quote or something. I duNno I duNno. Maybe there's a famous quarter. Maybe it's Karcher song but it sounds like something that he would have said about. You know your your worst pictures are your first ten million or ten thousand or whatever

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