Dr Brisson, Dr Sharib, Diarrhea discussed on Let's Talk Pets
Have sort of a sobering topic today. But something that really really needs to be discussed. And Dr Sharib we saw and I have been talking about the five ways to know when it's time to say goodbye, and we talked about eating and helmet. She and I both like that. And your dog probably likes it too. We've talked about keeping your food down not vomiting and having diarrhea and reaching a point where those medications really aren't making an impact and that pets liked to be clean and dry, and that can depend on what the owner is able and willing to do and your dog wants you to be happy as well. And whether or not your dog is able to do the things that they love or even experiencing the things that they hate. So the last thing Dr Brisson that I really wanted to hit. And I think it's it's super culminate. Of all of this is you said that you would like for the jobs have more good than bad each day. Can you go into that? Some certainly so we again, we kind of when we we live with these pets all the time. We don't notice things because they happen so gradually, and I think we get to a point where most clients I think call me when they get to where the dog is having good hours in the day, but not even full good days anymore. And so I think thinking about that as your pet ages. What is a good day for your pet and kind of listing those things of what makes a day good. What does he really enjoy? And as you see these things drop off not just to wait for them to drop off and then youth Anais, but to talk about your vet or talk to your about these things a little bit sooner. But we want them to have more good times than that. I think all of us want that for our own lives. And so if you you know, if they're sleeping a whole lot. You know, sleep is is okay. If it's if it's restful and they're not agitated or anxious. I think that's fine. But there may. A reason for that that that they're uncomfortable and they're trying to hide from pain. So we just need to make sure that we don't take their happiness for granted. If they still get so excited when you come home, and they want to be petted and loved and they're still enjoy going for walks, even if there are a little shorter than I think, we're doing okay. But we need to address the things that make their their quality of life poor. And I think a lot of times we just like you said stick our heads in the sand and hope for the best. And then when our pet is only having one or two good hours in a day or just a few good minutes in a day. Then we're calling and by then it's at the point where where we really don't have a lot of options except extreme hospice care or euthanasia. And sometimes even those pets I being a hospice that I can always come up with something to do. But often I get to that point. And I just I wish they called me sooner because I could have helped and may be given them some more time. So you had something that I know that you do that. I want to share you said that when you were going. Through an end of life experience you made a list. So can you tell my dog lovers a little bit about your list? Yes. When I was preparing to lose, my my little dachshund. He was eating like a little pig, but he was having some serious pacing at night and and issues that come with cognitive dysfunction. And so when I'm going to lose a pet I have to talk to myself like I talked to my clients because I am terrible. I am just a freak out. Mom, and I suddenly forget everything I know about veterinary medicine, so the hospice vet hat goes on. And I talked to myself in my head and say, okay, you know, are you meeting all the quality of life issues? I'll take my own quality of life quiz on my website and see how my head is doing. But with my dachshund, it was hard because he was still so interested in food, and he really his brain was his his main problem, you know, he had a little bit of back pain and stuff, but nothing I couldn't handle with hospice care. And so it was hard for me to make the call. And so I made a list of all the things he would be missing if he wasn't here tomorrow. And that was the good and the bad, and I broke my. Heart. But the only good thing on the list was two bowls of food because he didn't love my husband, and I any more. He didn't want to be near us. He paced all the time. He didn't play with his toys. He just didn't do any of his normal behaviors. And I kept him going because I hadn't sat down and really thought about what brought him joy in life, and he got pleasure from eating his breakfast and eating his dinner and any treats in between. And that was it, and that's no life at all. And so that was finally what what got my husband, and I to go. Oh, wow. You know, we've really this has gone onto long, and we need to to say goodbye. So you mentioned that on your website. There is a quiz is that what you said. Yes. So my website is h h P hospice dot com or helping hands pet hospice dot com and under the quality of life tab. There are the things that we talked about for my bare bones minimum quality of life. And then underneath that. There's a longer kind of quiz that has all kinds of symptoms. You are welcome. Any of your listeners are welcome to go there. And take the quiz and send it to me. I'll be happy to talk to you in general terms about your pet or just to take the quiz and kind of get that list and see. Wow. You know, that's a lot of stuff and printed out and take it to your veterinarian and tell them these are the things I'm noticing that my pet is having trouble with what can we do about them? And I think putting things on paper were so emotional about our pets. I think really kind of pros and cons writing things down. And I tell families everyone in the family should take the quiz separately. Because I'm amazed at how differently people interpret how their pets behaving, and it helps me to help them to know. Okay. They agree on these issues. But these issues they disagree on. So let's delve into that deeper. And what is your wife seeing that your husband's not seeing or vice versa? So we can all get on the same page. So I think an objective assessment can be really helpful in in deciding what's going on. And you mentioned that some owners kind of have a line in the sand. If she doesn't want to chase her baller. She doesn't want to eat her breakfast or whatever. And so. So things like that questionnaires in communication with your veterinarian can help you draw your line in the sand. I think definitely and lines can change. You don't it's not set in stone. But you know, for instance, I have clients that have their own medical problems. And they say, you know, I have a large dog if I get to the point where I have to lift him up off the floor, then I can't do this anymore. And I think that's really that's really good to know what your limitations are. Because certainly your dog would not want you to end up having to have back surgery because you had to haul them up off the floor because I can be painful for them too. So it's painful for you and painful for them and pain medication isn't helping then it may be time. And and that's okay. I think our own limitations, whether they're financial or emotional or time or physical. I think we really need to consider that because we tend to be selfless with our pets and want to do everything for them. But sometimes that is detrimental to us and our pets are here. So that we can love them, and they can love us, and we can bring each other mutual joy, if we're hurting each other then. We need to really consider whether this needs to go on. Well, I have so much enjoyed talking to you. I think that this information is going to help a lot of people. I think that I want everybody to know there's not a perfect time because every dog is an individual in every pet owner is an individual. So if you can use the things that we've talked about to kinda help you decide your own, and you know, that there's not really a wrong answer. And there's not really a perfect time. I really think that that should be our parting gift that we give you all do you have anything else that you would like to add Dr boy on? No, I think that's it. I just I feel for pet owners because I am one. And I just know how hard this decision is. And I know so many of them say, I'm not strong enough or was too weak to make the caller. I waited too long, and they beat themselves up forever. There is a zone between too early in too late. And it's a very big zone. And even the too early in the too late are subjective. So don't be hard on yourselves. Oh, you are. Or trying to do what you're what you need to do for your pet in every decision. You're making is being made out of love. And you can't go wrong when you're doing that. So we just need to make sure we're addressing their quality of life issues. And if they need pain medication or they need something to help them be more comfortable that we provide that. And if we can't or we won't or they're the pet won't take the medication that we say goodbye rather than than letting them be in distress. But but take it easy on yourself. This is hard for everyone including trained professionals. Yeah. That's a perfect closing statement. Because it's definitely hard for me. And I know it has been hard for you. And it will always be hard. It's always going to be hard. But communicate with your veterinarian look up, Dr we signs website. So that you can see her little checklist and make your own list of the good things and the bad things that your dog might be missing. If he or she wasn't here tomorrow, that's really helpful. And I think that that's where I'm going to close so everybody will remember it. So thank you. Dr. John for joining me today. I really love this me to thank you for having me also add like to thank all my dog lovers for tuning in to doctor cat gone to the dogs on pet life.