Listen: Brian Jones, Elvis, Matt Swayne discussed on Beyond Reality
"Please do. Okay. Is turning the radio down from Louisiana. Are you back off? Just going on. Regular listener. I I do live alone. They don't switch radio round. Okay. Listen in. Listen in on things. And you touched on several things that has been in my life. Uh-huh. When you said Elvis. Before that, you mentioned the costal. Well, what I'm getting at? Is as a in North Carolina. In junior high. Which set up attended across the street. Get crazy. And they never came over. And goes, hey, John you wanna? Low-speed? I probably still be a Pentecostal. But. But we've peaked in begin, you know, see if we could see anything these. But anyway, they would fall down on the wood chips everywhere. The. Niche in the faces. That's my point. Then what's coincidental is not only did I say dependent in junior high ten years old in Detroit. Michigan. Not was singing Capello Elvis songs. My mother would buy. Fifth grade. Oh, wow. Wow. What I'm getting at is Chris. Crystal. The pentecostals where a of. They were acting. Just go like, oh they following the goal, and they talk is in their language Elvis. A ten year old boy and could not here for two weeks. Screaming? But their faces were, you know, just give me your best screaming face. My point is just a faces alternate costal. And bizarre. The girls screaming when I was ten years old. They were like crying screaming, and coincidentally, I can tell you in thirty forty years later. I studied music therapy at Loyola University in New Orleans. So I'd say, it's all the Elvis thing. Music therapy. That's interesting. Yeah. Interesting. That's a great point. I wonder if I want to bring it back to what you had said earlier, Matt in talk, you're comparing the reaction to some of the people in the crowd at an Elvis concert to a very spiritual event like the Pentecostal reunion or something like that. It's the same kind of fervor. It's the same kind of passion. And it's the same kind of emotion. And that's that's the point you were making and when we were discussing earlier. Yeah. Absolutely. Caller, really nails. What I felt about looking at those pictures, which is just a similarity the reaching out the physicality of. The the. People in Elvis's concert as well as people in religious activity, and then also, you know, when you look at listen to a Beatles. Recording the screaming when they play live screaming is just nonstop in constant, and there has to be something. There has to be something to it. There's there's something driving both. Manifestations? I think you're absolutely right. And we're going to run quickly run out of time here, but I wanted to bring up Priscilla Presley because I think she at one point said that she had some type of encounter with Elvis's ghost. I did not find that. I'm trying to sink. No, I don't I don't whether I I've come across that. I know that she said that she ran into Gladys that goes to. That's what it was. Yeah. That's what it was. It could be and in addition to good. But the one thing is that the more that I researched this the more I realized that I really just scratched the surface. So there very well could have been you know, interviews where she talked about that that I I didn't come across. Here's something that I find I haven't heard any of these stories, but I wonder if you've come across anything any reports of maybe an av P or some other type of ghostly audio appearing in any recording session taping. Yeah. There is a story that Paul McCartney when George Paul and Ringo got together to record in. I think they were Bermuda Bahamas. Stay we're working on the anthology project, and of course, Jon had passed away. And there's a story that at the end of one of the songs that they recorded for the for the album, there was this weird electronic noise in in the middle of this electric outbursts. You can hear the name John Lennon so stat one there's another one where apparently you can hear someone screaming that they're getting murdered in the song. And I can't remember that that is love roller coaster by the Ohio planners. Yes. That's it. So those are two examples, but when I was much much younger. I remember a story about a group, and I think they were called psychic radio and they tried to record. A session and had a say on at the same time to get Brian Jones to appear on the song. And I can't remember whether they were successful or not. And since then I haven't been able to locate that now when you've got a studio like Abbey Road, which has been the site of some of rock's greatest recordings, particularly the Beatles work. There's gotta be stories associated with a place like that. You would think it I I haven't found any. But I I think that's a great place for me to start looking. So we've got a matter about five or six minutes left here. I want to turn from some of these personalities and talk about more of these locations because I think radio stations having be you worked at a radio station. I did for years we're doing radio show. Now, people are listening on the radio. They're pretty notorious for having some activity related to some of these artists to. Yes. I cover more of that in the country music. I found at least three or four radio stations in their call letters change her time. But there are more than a few that were haunted. The one that sticks out to me is one DJ said that his job was to come in the morning and turn onto transmitters. It's a little radio background, but a lot of times. Yes. FCC requires the modulation frequency, and so his job was to come in to the transmitter and and crank it up. And he said every time he went into that transmitter room. He felt this presence and then out of the corner of his eye. He saw a some type of figure some type of apparition walk by. And so, you know, the secularization is there skeptic side of me is there is there something going on electromagnetic -ly, maybe that's affecting his brain. Or is there a real haunted situation there? But yeah radio stations. Especially country radio stations are pretty pretty honored place. Jason might be able to comment on this. I mean, yeah, you're in a transmitter building having been somebody who's worked near and with transmitters for a long part of my life. There's a lot of electrical power being used and immediate. And I don't know if that's something that that can help manifest things or or does affect the way people perceive things to two different theories when it comes down to that. There is the whole hypersensitivity IAMS that people people have which causes everything from nausea fatigue. Elucidations generic station paranoia thinks that nature, but there's also this whole other belief that electromagnetic fields can help entities actually will draw power from them to do things to manifest themselves to to move small objects. And so there's there's a lot of those theories around there. But a lot of people are dealing with this this whole hypersensitivity EMF Lali. And so when you remove that a lot of times when we go to cases where people are having these experiences. The first thing we do is look. For high electro-magnetic fields. And if we're able to resolve that, then we give it a few weeks to see if the so-called paranormal case or the haunting has has disappeared because a lot of times it has nothing to do with haunting. It's just the this high magnetic fields, and that's the way the body's reacting to them in a one personality. Matt that I overlooked that I think we should spend a few minutes on here is Brian Jones, and you mentioned his name in relationship to a sans. But he is a founding member of the Rolling Stones. There are some stories that circulate with him in his death that we were talking about here. Yeah. Glad you brought him up. So Brian Jonestown being member of the Rolling Stones. He dies at twenty seven. He dies. In a drowning accident slash maybe murder is the way I I try to describe it. But since then there was at least one incident where a psychic medium was touring the house and the property where he died. And later when during the interview process as they were interviewing this, medium, go through the they listened, and they could hear blood curdling scream at a certain point by the swimming pool where he was walking by at the time. But there's some other really fascinating stories that before Brian Jenkins died, Mick, Jagger and Marianne faithfull were. Practicing. They were interested in each and they were rolling runes. And every time they would roll the runes the message that they got from interpretation was death by water. And in fact, Marianne faithfull asked me to do it again, and it came up death by water. So they've always thought that that was know a premonition that that Brian was going to die. And then Marianne faithfull really took Brian Jones's again, that's Nick's girlfriend really took Brian chances deaths. Pretty hard. And she I think overdosed. And she said she was saved by the ghost Brian Genesee. Brought her back with stones involved in the Colt Satan, worship or anything like that. There's a lot of stories that they may have been. Yeah, there's an I'm always, I'm blanking on his name. But they hung out with a. Movie producer? I believe who was heavily involved in the occult his name pops up with Led Zeppelin and Jimmy page. And then there's this story about Brian Jones going to Africa to learn how to drum with native drums, and he believes that he was cursed by a witch doctor there, so there's there's a lot of a cult background. And of course, what was their album for his satanic majesties request. So that was that was going on. Crazy. I mean, the stones had songs like sympathy for the devil. And you know, that probably fueled a lot of that too. Right. Yeah. And that's that's where you get. When you you look at the stance. I think they were always. The the question about satanism in rock and roll. I think is pretty ballad, but what role does it really play. Because I think sometimes the stones you know, they do have that outsider mentality. And I think a lot of times they bring up Saint nisan because it's the alternate, you know, tweak in the nose of of authority. So sometimes you don't know how serious they are the stones. I kind of think peripherally serious with someone like Jimmy page. I think was I don't think he was into Satan isn't, but he was deeply involved in the call, which you know. I think a lot of people look at that as being synonymous with satanism. I don't but a lot of people because they're two totally different things. Right. And a lot of people don't realize that the first thing they hear when the first thing they think of when they hear the occult is demonic, worship, Satan, and all these things and a lot of times has nothing to do with that. I mean, even with Jimmy page. I don't think he would consider himself a satanist ouster Crowley. I think most of what he was into was Celtic magic, which you know, at that time in England nervousness thing is Satan. So it's kind of hard to to draw that took strap Elat that so mad basically on time here. But I know you're working on a follow up to the rock and roll book any idea when that's going to be done and released I'm working on that right now, I actually took a step back and wrote a book called weird war too. That's my tentative title, which is looking at the ghost stories World War Two along with. Some of the forty and aspects of of the war. So that'll be next. And then I hope to have Honda. More haunted rock and roll out. Hereafter that's kinda plan. And by the way, I do have a website. It's Matt Swayne dot com. I keep forgetting. Seems so egotistical. I have Jason Hawes dot com. I don't know. I'm just not very good at the marketing aspect of the problem is if you don't get your name somebody else will then they'll try to sell it to you. So it's just ridiculous. So in addition to the books that you just listed that you're working on any other projects that we should be watching out for you know, I've had some people inquire about whether this this material would make a good television show. I've been talking to some people informally about that. So I mean, I think it does lend itself well to that. So maybe something like that happens. Interesting. That's great. Well, thanks so much for coming on the hanging out with us, and again, people can go to beyond reality radio dot com. Click on the guest tab."