Denver, Colorado. Right? And so. What I wanted to touch on here is, you know, I was just listening briefly to the conversation and if you want to know where Colorado's history begins, you know, you talk to the shine and the arapaho tribes along with the utes and the comanches that used to be there, along with the apaches. That's where you start. Unfortunately for us, the people, the real keepers of the history, you know, when you look in regards to those things on reservations right now, a lot of the keepers of that sacred knowledge of the poor people are the people that you don't interact with outside of the Indian reorganization act governments. So I'm going to reference to go back to those reservations to reach out to those said families who still have all that knowledge with regards to treaty making. Right? You're going to look at the treaty of the little Arkansas. You're going to look at the treaty of fort why is he going to look at the 18 68 Larry treaty and how they reference an old way of life that we force the federal government to look at us as nations and human beings. Because they could not defeat us in the field of battle. The only time they could defeat us in the field of battle was in times like sand creek and that wasn't even a battle. When they forced us to destitution and food scarcity, disparity of resources such as lands and water access to water access to hunting and it took our rifles away and they said, go stay at that floor and we'll protect you. And they failed to do so. I ain't just exhibiting the methodology and how sand creek unfolds it with regards to the state militias and the California men that went and produced this said massacre. Okay. And so that's what I'm going to tell the state people within the history of Colorado to reference. Go back to these reservations, look at the poor people, man. I used to work as a travel store preservation officer for 6 years. And I consulted with the history Colorado and it was one of their people within that set organization that also was the reason I walked away from that job because they were still purporting to divide and conquer narrative because I was standing up for these beliefs. I was standing up for these things that I'm referencing. Really appreciate you calling in today. And you know, Devin, what you speak to, that's why this show is called native America calling, because we want people like you to call in with those perspectives. And sometimes it's not about having a PhD. It's not about being some tribal leader. It's about just being a regular native person, a concerned tribal member such as yourself who has opinions who has insights who has expertise to offer and really appreciate you pointing that out. And Sam, I want to let you respond because how much of an effort is there. Obviously, you know, we have chest around the show. We have also have on the show we have Fred. But other just regular people from these tribes who are invested in this issue were invested in this history to such a great degree, such as our caller Devon, how much of an effort is made to include those voices as well. Well, first, I want to say thanks to Devin, and I think Devin's exactly right. The importance of getting these histories from not from the sources, not looking at just the U.S. government sources. It's unbelievably important. And you can't, I don't think any history organization should be making exhibits only based on the U.S. government's accounts of these things. Because they're unreliable because they're biased and because for the longest time, that's the way people have said this is the history, right? And it's about the power and control that people who have been in my position have exerted over this narrative. And so my goal is to make sure that that doesn't keep happening because that's not that's not an honest history. And that doesn't show what really happened. I think the other thing to know here is that we have a really strong relationship with these travel representatives that representatives from these governments that like you said that were set up in response to the unvanquished unconquered native peoples of Colorado. And we work as a state government with the representatives and we was three years really of constant contact with these people. But they aren't the only story keepers. And a lot of our representatives said there's been a lot of recordings. There's been a lot of work done with the elders with the people that Devin is talking about who hold these stories done over the years. For the last 20, 25 years since the sand creek masker National Historic Site was developed. And we're really proud that the stories that came from those people are available to hear in the exhibit and online. Well, we have reached the end of our show. I want to thank our guests, Chester white men, Fred mosquito and sandbach for joining us to share insights regarding the exhibition. Again, it's titled the sand creek massacre, the betrayal that changed Cheyenne and arapaho people forever. I hope you'll join us again tomorrow for a conversation about the upcoming and digi pop X that's a native pop culture gathering at the first meet excuse me the first Americans museum in Oklahoma City. I'm Shawn spruce. Program support by amaran. For 35 years, Indian country has put its trust in amerind, providing insurance coverage, strengthening Native American communities, protecting tribal sovereignty and keeping dollars in Indian country are Amarin's priorities. More information on property. Liability, workers compensation, and commercial auto needs at amerind dot com. 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