Carnegie Hall, Michael's Pub, Harold Leventhal discussed on Inside the Studio
Audition at michael's pub. This was so out of the blue. Nobody knew that you could make living sing folk songs. I mean there was no there was no entrance that my father was a big star in the radio business but he sang rajasthan heart and had a great radio show and i mean that was a whole other era of music and so folk music was ridiculous. Forget it. But i went down and i had an audition. I played and sang a concert for an hour and he hired me and so that was the start and in in those days it was very much word of mouth. One person he would call the place in. I'm sure he called. He called the gilded garter in in central city and said you know she sold some tickets and. Why don't you try. So i went up. That was my second day. And then i went to The exodus in denver a inbetween and then and then in about two years time after working. All these clubs word of mouth. I got to new york and i was actually the headliner and i couldn't believe it. I don't have been doing it a couple of years but i got there and i found out that my opener was thirteen year. Old named arlo guthrie. So that's where when we met and he was. He was always darling and charming. I knew his mother very well. Because my manager quite quickly became Harold leventhal who managed the weavers and pete seeger and alan arkin and theater. Cal he managed. It seemed to me. Almost everybody who made records made music that was folk music and Harry belafonte always wanted harold to manage him but he's had told me that consistently said no. I don't know why you said no. That would have been a lot of fun. So i have known arlo all these years. And we've done all kinds of. We went to japan together in one thousand. Nine hundred. sixty six. With mimi and bruce langhorne and we had a great time there and i sang an arlos leading to jackie. His wonderful wonderful wife. i love jackie. She was the treasurer and unfortunately she died. A couple of years ago and are low has been just a mainstay. In my life we've done shows together. We've traveled together. We have in common so many friends so this past two years ago we started working on. Let's do a big tour together and so we all it took a while but finally we got. We must have had fifty seventy five shows places like video and and tanglewood and places of course Humphries out in the west and loud places and they were all set up and then of course it pandemic hit and he called me in september. We had all these dates for. They were not. None of them were cancelled they were just moved into the next and then the next the next month and he said i have to tell you this because i don't want to tell anybody yet until i've told you that i'm retiring. I can't do this anymore. Because i've had a couple of heart attacks and i just don't have the stamina and i can't sing very well and so on and i said well you have to think about your health. So he said yes. I do and i said i'm concerned about your health. But i think the best thing for you to do is to not go out anymore. Do this touring that we do. Which is you have no idea how hard it's nobody doesn't do. It has any idea art. It is but i said meantime. Why don't we do a talk together. I hadn't even come up with the podcast idea yet. But i said we should do one of these talks. I did a talk. For carnegie hall did a series of interviewing other people. I interviewed my how my friend should be webb. And allen. coming. And sean cole. And steve earle and we all all four of us talk together on a zoom show for carnegie hall. We did it probably in. I would say june or july last summer. You can get it on their podcast if you go onto carnegie hall and you look it up in the county health. President wonderful man introduced me and he said he was introducing me and he said and judy conscious done fifty shows over the years at carnegie hall. I hadn't known what the number was. I knew was an awful lot because most of those early years saying every year at christmas which are loaded. Arlo sang at thanksgiving and i sang at christmas. And it was pretty much the new york routine you know people would go to both of our shows so we had a good time. Anyway we had a just fabulous time with our podcast. So that'll be coming down in the series very soon. Oh i can't wait to hear mean these people that you had these these deep relationships with for many many years the our lows the jack holtzman. The the clive davis. Did you find when you were doing these podcasts. That you learn stuff about them that you never knew. I won't spill the beans again. But i asked. I asked clive in the middle of the podcast. And it's revealed you you find out things. I mean i've found out how got into this. This business it wasn't through a musical Connection it was legal we went to law school and was with a firm and they wanted him to go to monterey and represent some client down. There i don't even know who it was. And he was mesmerized and transformed by the janice joplin and and santana. That's how we got into it. I didn't know that. And i said to him during the show. I said who is the one who got away and he said you know. That's a great question. I i've never been asked that question people. Ask me who. I dropped and who walked away from me. But they don't know never ask me who got away and you know it was a big surprise. You want to know who it was. It was harry chapin. Said your guy. Overbid me jack. Holden wrote a bigger check out so that was funny tax. Who was on a lecture. Yeah and of course you do find out things people's people tell you things that they would not necessarily say in public or if it was scripted they would not say and they're they're home you know they're probably they're not in the studio. The lights are not shining on them. So they're in their living rooms or maybe in their bedrooms and maybe in their dining rooms but you're intimately talking with them in a way. That is very free form. I'm sure you find that you've done so many of these and you understand that people are going in various directions. And sometimes they're surprise. It's such an incredible privilege in such an incredible way to engage your sense of curiosity to learn about all sorts of different people and all sorts of different ideas. Do you find that you learned something about yourself. Having done this. I learned a lot about my own curiosity absolutely and also that. I'm i'm really. I'll talk about anything. You pry open those doors and you just never know what's going to come out really and it's a good thing because conversation is how we grow and learn and it gives us a balanced life and it gives us an idea of how the other side is living in on what's what's what thanks can be troublesome and what things are a lot of fun and It's conversation now. I grew up in this kind of family because my dad was in the radio business so his radio show consisted of his playing and singing the songs of the great american songbook and telling about his life and reading poetry and having guests he had a lot of guests on his show. Some of them would come home to dinner. George shearing came to dinner. And i think you should continue practicing the.