Listen: Israel, Gaza, Jesse discussed on The West Wing Weekly
"I believe the guy in part also because the guy was good. So let's Vish to Zach Cohen who was born in Tel Aviv. And was quite good as Jesse that. He was very genuine and believable and gives a good performance. Yeah. The story that he tells about the tack on the idea of bases based on something that really happened in two thousand three when three soldiers were killed in their barracks in two of them were young women. And another thing that we didn't mention earlier is that really this whole storyline about a diplomatic convoy being attacked by a roadside bomb is very similar to something that happened in two thousand and three and three Americans died in that attack. Yeah. I mean as we record this episode as well, we can it's worth noting that three teenagers were killed. In Gaza near the border in an incident. That's now being disputed Israel, saying they were planting an I d officials in Gaza Zing, not at all they were just kids. And so I mean the. Terms of progress. None probably be a good description of what there's been since this episode, and I look forward to talking more about the situation Gaza Israel. I've been to the crossing by the way the crossing that is name checked and depicted in the cold opening. Yeah, I visited there long ago. Can you tell me a little bit about all the things that you are thinking and feeling when you watch an episode like this? Yeah, I guess this hits home with me and very deep level. That's why I was pleased overall. I'm not sure I ever seen this episode. I felt like I was watching it for the first time I believe I've never had before. So I was pleased that again without feeling like it was a primer on the Middle East. It did accomplish some of what needs to be done. Which is it's sort of depicted suicide bombers it also referred to the intractability of certain Israeli positions. Two years later, Israel, would you know laterally withdraw from Gaza as described by Yosi seventy five hundred ninety set Nelson ended up by one point three million dollars tinians. And then of course, there's all the human labor and risk of protecting this sort of absurdly small pocket of Jews trying to live where they're not welcome in two thousand and six the settlers many of them kicking and screaming were forced to withdraw from Gaza. The the settlers. Yeah. Donna says in Israel. There's talk of giving up these settlements like that was already part of the conversation in two thousand four enough that Donna knows about it. But the woman says in this place. It is our divine opening Gatien. To be here. Yeah. This is a point again will in his slow. They myopic view says I'm not saying there's a quote, one Israelis don't talk about driving the Palestinians into the some do come on never heard the phrase, greater Israel. That's what the settlers are talking about. Tune the scene that you're describing this concept that from the bible, Israel, Jewish Israel is entitled to all the West Bank and all the Gaza Strip because that's what God promises, and this sort of to me inane, this is that a word or inanity of tying your territorial claims in the modern day to the bible, and you know, of an Israeli version of manifest destiny. Yes. This is a problem. This is not a modern day solution for real people and real people's some glad that the episode dealt with that episode showed you settlers and their philosophy. And that that is the case of all settlers not that all settlements of the same. But this couple I'm glad that that scene was. Yeah. All right. Let's take a break from this. I I can turn our attention back to Donna's specific storyline donnas. Dalian's? I love how complicated. This part is first of all I think maybe one of my favorite moments in this episode is when Leo tells Josh that he can go to Germany someplace you'd rather be everyone would understand I'm."