Listen: Albany, New York City, Rikers discussed on Max & Murphy on Politics
"Let's move onto our second guests who is no stranger to Albany, by the way. And that is Brooklyn borough president, Eric Adams. Thanks for joining us here on WBAI. Great speaking with you. So you are a former state Senator, which probably people who followed your career. No well, but what's your, what's your reaction to what we've seen come from Albany, especially these last couple of days on the on the rent regulations? Arm still. On it. I was in news all day, but just from what I heard a real, we are clearly reaching in, in a direction. We we're looking at how to ensure a lawns affair. When you look at the various areas, everything from MCI to think she d control many of these areas going back to the days when tell seven that's was there. An critique gather in sweeping Crump of bills that never really made it to the floor on able to pass them. And so I think that with the Senate democrat control, as well as their simply at with the large enough voting block, it makes it easier to accomplish the task. And I think they should be happy for the results that they won't fall into so much onto tickets to see a great deal things done. If he continued to be take control of the Senate. So over the next few days, Mr President, there is a lot left to be done potentially. In Albany, a lot of big ticket items still metabol- when you think about that list. The people rattle off of marijuana legalization driver's licenses for the undocumented charter cap, fifty a what would you say are your priorities? What do you want Albany to do? What do you think they absolutely must do before they go home June nineteenth. Not really hasn't been a communicated a lot. But when we need to look there in the fair fund for education on far too long, although there was a campaign for fiscal equity. We'd never did get out to and the numbers. Just don't add up on you. Look at the numbers, they come to New York City, I think it is important that we visited that says an opportunity when should get their share in education educational dollars and to that legalization of our honors import. With a clean up the records of those who were arrested. Of we give people an opportunity to go on with their lives. And all you have a police record hanging over your head infects, the quality of life around, employment and other areas that a person could be up to visit society. I think which take a very close look at how we're going to deal when. The prison reform is so much more. We, we can do around prison reform. That no one should be ELD on bail and they arrested for non violent. Crime is other ways. We should that they were hearing. And what and I think going even deeper in prison reform is something that I think they should look at it as well. And correct me if I'm wrong, but you have come out and support for extending driver's licenses to, to all to including undocumented immigrants. I'm sorry you broke up. Correct me if I'm wrong. But you've come out in support of driver's licenses for all, including undocumented immigrants that something, you want to see them get done. It just think about it for a moment. It's an economic win, because it allows fusion of a real tax dollars on allowing undocumented immigrants. Who have driver's license and allowed them to not live in the shadows of employment. They're driving. Anyway. They're on the road. We don't know how many run incidence chats to a person having their driver's license on, we're able to forms of identification. Like the municipal ID program is shows that people are willing to step out of the shadows of government is hard enough with the energy, that's coming from all the as anti immigrant is should not be saying, yeah, I think it's a real win. It allows to be on the road would do with reporting incidents and accidents, allowing people to be employed. And this win win all the way around if we're able this happened during the session. So as Albany, winds toward the ends of its session. And if it session the city is moving toward its annual budget deadline. I'm curious with the city budget as. The topic what are your priorities there? Where do you want to see what the mayor has proposed shoring up or shaved off what what are your suggestions for? The city is spending plan for next year. Several areas that I believe is important to one and what was always the important with me and education. We have to do more in early childhood education and of really it's more than just pre K three K. I'm hoping the mayor inner city council look at zero three model that we have been talking about, and other educational experts have been also talking about we're not doing enough in early childhood education. We. We're we're, we're losing you in and out there borough president Adams. Yep. That's pretty good. I was saying that a child's brain develops between the ages of zero to three yet, we do not have this fall. We've not showing parents with the. And so when we look at early childhood education that is the area. I'm hoping of that we, we can look towards also equity equity in those pre K. Not, you'll reap the local community based organization and nonprofit of we believe they should receive an echo of pay equivalent to the pre K program that the department of education is unfair that we're not doing that, and send the wrong message in the process, and that seems to be maybe the biggest sticking point between the city council and the administration. These budget negotiations is that so-called pay parody for the early childhood educators, as you say, in the in the CBO versus the DOE schools. Do do you have a sense of, of what the holdup is there is that really just a the to Bosnia administration, not wanting to make the financial commitment, there that would then basically be expected going forward? Or do you have any sense of what the holdup is on? On that pay parody. Unfair to continue to have many of these local communities organizations are in oppourtunities, when you need to ensure that I'll teaches school in these location in pre K locations, receiving the same salaries that same level of paint that they can't apart are receiving not believe another important area. I look at we can't continue to feed the crises in all city and something that really has been below the radar of when you look at the conversation around close Rikers and the mayor's proposing to open digital sales in four of the boroughs, but we also look at closing the pipeline their fees like righteous almost thirty to thirty five percent of the men and women who all Iraqis island there dyslexic. So if we prop. Really address the issue of not giving them the service at the beginning of the educational of opportunities, then we could actually start dealing with the process feed in rank is in the first place. Many of them leave school because they don't in properly identified as being dyslexic. They not even the service, they start doing petty crimes in a lead to logic crime, and so close in a facility without closing the pipeline. There sees facility is, is not going to solve the problem is only going to create in containing create the crisis, and that, that is also true for those enforce it can who age out those foster care, young people wage out, they become victims of criminal behavior, or they participating criminal behavior by allocating fifty million dollars to give them. What's called life coaches. It would allow them to get the support that they need right now only three percent of those who age out of foster care, or who are in force the care. Actually graduate from college, and that is just a real indicator that there's no future for them. If we we're not giving them the support that they need on the topic of the mayor's borough jails plan, replacing Rikers with facilities in four of the five boroughs last week, you chaired a borough hearing on that people expressing their views on the plan to expand facility that already has a jail footprint in your borough. I know your recommendations are, are, are do soon. What is your take on the proposal, overall and the specific plan for your borough? And I would be unfair to me without hearing all of the stakeholders involved before we produce a report, it gives the opinions that I'll never willing to listen to people already had my mind made up, and I don't think that way. And so I'm going to hold off on say without formal position is until I have an opportunity to hear from all the stakeholders ball is very complex conversation because, as we bring down until the number of those who are incarcerated in Rikers island of, we want to be a really responsive to the needs of the community and at the same time hopeful with the plan to close. Right. And so we will be given a formal report and at that time, it would it would be clear on without position sticking with the close Rikers plan and public safety, your former member of the NYPD and, you know, been outspoken on criminal Justice issues and policing. Issues. Do you have any thoughts right now in terms of some of the discussions that are, that are happening? The reforms that happened in Albany. The plan to get the New York City jail population down to around four thousand as the mayor believe recently predicted, it could get with the with the new changes out of Albany on bail in discovery. Do you have any concerns that things are swinging too far in the other direction? With public safety. You should should move at the right pace. We can't allow emotions to actually generate the policy. I was cleared under the former speaker speaker, every till I was cleared with her, that there was no reason we were turn and see some as his in criminal court summonses into warrant of we partnered with as we move out city away from that, that was a big mistake. If someone of receive a summons of for a particular fence, and they did not showing call if they would have shown up in court of they would not have a permanent, Mark on the record. They didn't show up in court. They will have a permanent marker erected, anywhere have a warm, and I knew that was a big mistake, particularly when we look at how we were issuing summonses also petty crimes of based on the area of the city that a person happened to this. That's the same way I feel about a decreasing. Of the prison population in Rikers. I don't believe that a person who commits a nonviolent act as I said earlier should be incarcerated, right? 'cause merely because they do not have enough money to pay for bell. I think that's wrong. It's the wrong way to, to go those who commit predatory crimes, and clearly those late lovely burglary homicide from all these assault kidnapping of they should be incarcerated as I don't believe that we should ignore that. And of there's some people who say, we don't need jails at all of these are reasonable and you wanna be in jail. I do not subscribe to that they're up police city of New York, and I don't want to return to the days of when we were all riding around with no radio signs, and all."