Mark Driscoll, Trinity Church, Deepak Chopra discussed on The Eric Metaxas Show


Folks. Many of you already know mark driscoll. If he don't let me see what it says. oh yes. He's the founding senior pastor of the trinity church in scottsdale arizona but he has debated deepak chopra on abc's nightline. He's discussed marriage with barbara. Walters on the view all kinds of ugly stuff. Like that mark driscoll. Welcome to the program. Good to have anybody good to see. Thanks for having me on. It's good to see you. It's good to see you always but honestly you've written a book. The reason you're here today is to talk about. I'm holding in my hand. It's called christian. Theology versus critical theory. A lot of people are at least confused about this new thing. You keep hearing about critical race there. You might theory my thesis. I should say is that anytime. Somebody comes up with a new thing like that. I'm deeply suspicious because they act as though everything you've heard up until now is wrong. Here take this and i think why. What are you saying to me so we were hoping we could get somebody on the program to discuss it. And we found you so mark driscoll thank you. Thanks for writing this. Is this brand new. Yeah and so. It's krista theology versus critical theory. It's free it real faith dot com. I've got a mountain a bible teaching there. I tend to teach through books of the bible. I've been a pastor for twenty five years. I didn't go through a publisher. 'cause i know it would get attacked and cancelled. I didn't put endorsements on it because then all they do is just shoot. Ariza your friends. So i'm just giving away. I think that the greatest threat to christian theology right now is critical theory. I believe it's the counterfeit i believe. It seeks to undo anything that looks like traditional western values. Marriage family sexuality critical race theory is a part of that but it's much much much bigger issue. Critical theory includes gender. Studies ribbon seeing it now with mask. No mask vaccine. No vaccine almost every single cultural collision that we're having is up against critical theory now. Most people i think intuitively sense. Something along the lines of what you said. But they don't have the vocabulary. And i really don't to put these things together. Is it because. I mean when i think of things critical race theory or critical theory immediately i think. Hey this is. Marxism marxism has been taken out of the economic sphere and brought into every other sphere. And what marxists do is they divide people. It is to my mind. Fundamentally anti-biblical another words as bible brings love and forgiveness and it cancelled culture critical race theory. All of these things are dividing. Is that what you're getting at when you talk about masks. No masks are are. We even dealing with it with that issue yet. Every single issue. It's a collision of two worldviews. So the the christian worldview is that there is a god he has lost. Everyone is judged by them. You need forgiveness of sin. We need to love and serve one another the counterfeit of that and so i would put the category spiritual warfare over and all the everything god creates satan counterfeits so what critical theory seeks to do it seeks to make heaven without god seeks to replace fathers and families with government and it creates warfare. It creates collision between those who hold to traditional theory versus those who would hold the critical theory and traditional theory is really how do you build some. How do you build a culture. in economy. A family marriage a society. What happens in critical its deconstruction. It's breaking so you critique gender you critique marriage you critique sexuality you critique private property ownership you critique right to privacy when it comes to medical issues regarding vaccine what these are these are just demolition crews and you know as well as i do building something is really hard tearing it down breaking. It is very very easy and so what you get every day. Everybody wakes up and it's sort of the rage of the day. Who or what are we attacking breaking and tearing down today and the myth is that if we tear down what was built that somehow something better will emerge a better culture a better view of family a better social order and it just doesn't happen. Look at the cities like seattle portland. La san francisco chicago. That are maybe a few years ahead of parts of the other midwestern cities. That are a little more insulated. And it's not working. It's not working. Financially is not working culturally. It's not working racially. People are literally fleeing those places. Because it's just a lie. The lie is that we can make a just orderly good society without god and without law and order. It's amazing because most americans aren't used to this and they thinking where did this come from I had the fortune of misfortune You know going to place like yale in the eighties where this stuff was already entrenched. And i even remember at the time. Just a naive working class kid. I wanted to study the english language that english literature and these weird marxist feminist theories were coming in and it just struck me even then as odd as as somehow unpleasant as as fundamentally negative and it sounds like. That's what you're saying like this stuff is almost like a force of negation. It doesn't wanna build. It just wants to destroy Do you think if you ask somebody who is a big proponent of this stuff that they are they deluded into thinking that there's something happy on the other side that there's some utopia on the other side of the wreckage. Yeah you you mentioned marxism and that is always. Who's the oppressor who's the oppressed. And if i'm the oppressed than justice is attacking and dismantling the oppressor and then the the naive assumption is like if we destroy family if we destroy marriage if we destroy gender we destroy christianity which is happening now and i believe that critical theory is creating a whole generation of widespread mass apostasy people who are giving up basic biblical convictions. But still claiming to be christians and it's exacerbated by social media the throttling of the platforms and organizations like black lives matter which are fundamentally seeking to undo everything that would be some sort of christian value about gender marriage sex and family but the the naive assumption is if we get rid of something. We'll get something better. Jesus had the principle of seven demons he said you cast a demon out and you don't replace the holy spirit you just get seven more demons and so we see this for example with reimagining law and order in the police..

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