Bill Ryan, Cornell University, Nightcap discussed on Coast to Coast AM with George Noory
US airforce aviation cadet program after graduating from Cornell University. And while in the air force, he experienced the off. Oh, encounter. That had a profound effect on his life, but it came years later, and while working in Washington DC in the sixties, he felt drawn to join the national investigations committee on aerial phenomena, that was nycacc headed up by major Donald ki-ho at the time. Nightcap was the most prestigious organization of the country at the time investigating you affords Len. Welcome back to the program. Judge always a pleasure. I joined nightcap to when I was a kid. I got my little certificate card and everything else. God. I loved it. Yeah. What a great nation. KO did a great job. And he was the head of the toil. So that's right. Exactly. That's a good point. How have you been? I've been fine. I haven't fine and you pretty writing. You've got this new book coming out next year dark league. I know I've been working on it for about a year. Looking forward to that. We're we might as well book for next year already to get you back. It's published in much. Tell us a little bit. Let's go back a little bit and talk about planets sherpa because that has a lot to do with what we're going to talk about tonight. What was that? Show. Yeah. Absolutely. It was a it was an interesting. It was an interesting event. Several and. You know, you've had no Ryan on your show avenue. Yes. We sure have Bill knows a lot about Serpa also and also carry Cassidy, it really happened. It actually happened and it was kept under the undergrad for longtime at finally emerged. Thanks to the DIA. They had a lot to do with it. It was a program of what transferring. That can wasn't a back and forth, transferring program. No, we set twelve Americans on on alien spaceship to that to that planet in nineteen sixty five did they come back. Thirteen years. Reminds me of the ending of that close encounters of the third kind movie. Remember that scene. The movie was about that actually but left, only seven came back. Five. Them died in two decided to remain there, really. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. I'm not sure. What's that was that was a question I asked at contact in the desert this weekend. If you would go on an AT craft one way in not come back in half of the panelists said they not go the other half said they would. I'm not I don't know why anyone would say that dance that they would intend to stay there. That's surprises, because that's that's unlikely to cuddle find planet one haven't even seen in one to stay. But after being there for thirteen years, they decided they liked it. They're two of them tuned in. We're was this planet, what system was it in and data ridiculous? About thirty nine light years from our sun, our solar system isn't that the same planetary system that we think the Barney, and Betty hill case might have originated from system. It's very law system. And there are many, many planets around that particular son, actually actually it's a binary son. Two two two sons there in the system. That's, that's the reason that our people never had any darkest Evie, because there was always one son in the sky. So it was always like there, whenever they're close encounters came out late. Seventies, I think. Close encounters came out, and I think it was seventy seventy seven okay. Do you think they fed Spielberg, some of the information? Absolutely. No question whatsoever. He wrote the screenplay in one weekend at the sharing Evelyn's hotel in New York City, it could not possibly have done that, if he didn't have she wasn't being fed information, and he was getting the information from the DIA. Did they give him the information because it wanted to start leaking this out or or what happened? They thought they thought it belonged in the public that the public had a right to know this, because it was an important story. And so the DIA people who released it wanted it known and this was the best way they could do it was through Spielberg just made tremendous hit with jaws, right? And they thought he thought he was the right guy for it. And he did a great job. It was a great movie. And people still talking about it today. As a matter of fact that scene, where the twelve twelve people lined up ten minutes to women lined up in our jumpsuit, in that same moving with their sunglasses on and everything else, your strong sunglasses because they knew an advance that the sun was very bright on several. Special south as and spear brought that out. When with a lot about it was an amazing program. Both the movie and probably the project circle has the project ended or is it ongoing? No, it did not end we traveled to relation diplomatic relationship with those that civilization. And there were several other visits back and forth after that. And in the case of one visit which took place at an island in the Pacific. We invited other other countries to attend invited China invited Russia invited the Vatican. The craft that was used to get us back there. Of course, have we ever reversed engineered it? Well, we did yes, we did reverse engineer that craft. And as fact that was that was the so called. Nineteen sixty four craft and landed in northern New Mexico, lonnie's Maura was right. Coral. That was the one that was the one that was the one that landed at the wrong place. They landed Nisa Sokoto, instead of Holloman Air Force base. But then they got finally got a message, and they went back to Holloman and they stayed in orbit, while the other one landed. Was actually sent to craft here. It was that case, the lonnie's immoral case that convicts j Allen Hynek that maybe this is really happening. Hynick was the one that said it was the most convincing case on record. Exactly exactly it changed. His whole view did. Exactly. And because it was a huge egg-shaped craft sitting on the ground on legs, and too small. Creatures standing in front of it in white uniforms. And when they realized that they were being observed, they jumped in and took off, they went for why we stopped at that case might have been in experiment with the lunar Lander that they have out there somewhere because of kind of sounded like it. But it but the more I got into it lend the more I realized now Amora more something from out of this world. That incident occurred on April twenty four th nineteen sixty four which was the exact date at the alliens had told us, they would be coming. That's how it all coincided. It was apps. Absolutely right. On target Lynn. What kind of propulsion system did they have? And do they have? Well, they had anti-matter technology. We know that. But they also knew how to travel through wormholes, and they would enjoy any took it only took them ten months from one to the point into the other. So it must have been true. It must have been through a worm all whereabout travel, actually instantaneous, but navigating to and from the entrances to the wormholes, take some time, and that's probably how they how they chewed up the other ten nine months. I mean, once you go through a wormhole bending space and time where one end and another end basically touch each other, and you're right. It isn't cineastes. Once they do that. Exactly. And we've now learned we've now learned that the, the so-called wormholes are really part of a much larger web permeates the, the whole solar system. I it's like a spider's web. And once you get into the web, then you're through you go to a Stargate. And you're traveled instantaneous one. When you wrote the book secret journey to planet surp- home, which was back in two thousand thirteen I think, how did you come across the story? How did how did this come to you? I spent two hours in a in a shuttle craft with Bill Ryan. I witnessed any talk about the whole the whole trip now when he when he was talking about it. I mean, did you say Bill? This is way out. Come on now. He wasn't talking directly to me. He was talking to somebody else. And I was I was listening to it. It's a small small can. Sure. And he dominated the conversation. I said it was it was a level of conviction. That convinced me because he definitely he definitely believed it. And it made sense to me, and I started doing the research, right after that trip and he had too much detail to just simply make this up. Exactly. And not only that. But once you go to the website. That was put out there by the DIA such information that it's mind boggling fourteen thousand words in the web on website. Which was created by Bill created website. No. That's where all the information comes from, and somehow Carl Sagan, who wrote the book contact was a great astronomer on his own. He was somehow consulted about this. Tell me about that. Yes, he was consulted. Yeah. They, they consulted him because in more information about these astronomy, astronomical details. And he, he provided information but he could never admit to it because he was too, too much involved with is trying to me program at Cornell, and he didn't wanna lose his position by making these making some touch, and nutty claim same. So same university, you went to yes. Yes. He went to Cornell. He was the head of the department there, and he was brilliant. He's brilliant. But the whole thing was said. The people who wrote who wrote the website needed his needed his input and. But he wrote he never nevertheless. He did write about it in fiction in fictional form. He wrote the book contact. That's right. So that was really his way of releasing the what he knew about the information what he knew about situa- publicly he would always talk about extraterrestrial life out there. But he never admitted publicly that they were here. He kept that to he couldn't. He couldn't really he has had to be trying to department Ivy league university. He probably would have lost his job. Yeah. That's, that's true it so he took the wiser course and. Nevertheless, he's still becoming immortal guy. He's he's really missing his own right now. The agency that ran the department was created for this Defense Intelligence Agency was was that the DA was created by president Kennedy nineteen sixty.