Were. Yeah, she did. She wore a bandolier bag, it's kind of going back to what you were saying before. I did that in order to do something more aligned with my Mississippi route. And the title of that bag is cutting them but in my accent. And I made that bag with the understanding of at the time I was I'm starting to learn choctaw, which is my dad's first language. And I am such a linguistics nerd that I was reading this article that said that if you learn a language after 9 years old, you're always going to have your first accent in that language. Just the way that your mouth and your developed? So I thought about how going back to its my traditional language. But I'm going to have my own accent today. So I wanted to do kind of a traditional bandolier bag with my kind of take on it. So those are my florals and my kind of fill and the treatment of the bag itself the closer closure. Is more my style. But it's recognizably talked of, which I hope one day to get there in my language. But yeah, that was one of the largest pieces that I've finished and it's definitely in the new upswing of me putting more meaning into my work. Okay. And where can our listeners go to see more of your work Hollis? I am so lazy. I just have an Instagram. It's. Okay. I know you mentioned an Instagram as well. Can you give us more details on where listeners can see your feed work? Yeah, sure. I have a full-time job, so I'm like the other artists I just have an Instagram and a Facebook. So my Instagram is at Taos PA Al V tails TA Al ez and then my Facebook is tally motto. Okay, all righty. I want to go to brocade and brocade. What tips do you have for anybody who wants to just start beating someone like myself? Somebody in the middle age, you just, because I'm always kind of wanted to try it. It looks so cool and I especially like the sports medallions and things like that. Where does somebody start? So first, I would definitely understand that it will build your patients. Because when you're first starting, you are going to break needles. You're going to break this and you're just going to put down your Bieber. And walk away, maybe even throw it. So definitely, it's a beginning process and you're going to build your patients. But I would definitely look at what you want to be and then look at pictures as somebody how to beat it. I have people asking me all the time. I really want to make a cradle board so I've had some classes where they can come in and look at my cradle boards, ask me questions, and I can share with them how I was taught to be a cradle board because everyone has their own different styles. People beat on different canvases, leather, you know, bucks getting. They all do it different, but I just show them how I do it. So I would definitely just ask somebody and ask them how to show you how to bead. And yeah. All right. Well, I think I need to do that then. I need to get after it. And tally, let me ask, is it expensive? Is there does it cost a lot of money to get started beating or can I do it on a budget? You could probably do it on the budget. I like really pretty shiny things. So my materials that I use are kind of more expensive, but I think nowadays, people even artists like me were more willing to regenerate. You know, that's just in our nature. So somebody wants to start and they don't have materials, I'm like, hey, you know, if you need some, come up through my stuff, take what you need. I'm all for helping other indigenous artists out because how old are they not going to get started? So I can help someone in any way start beating like brocade said, you know, just pick up that needle and start and if they need a little helping hand, I'm all for helping, but if you go online, there's wholesale places like the beach argan pretty expensive. money goes to be they're going to beat store in a heaven, but of course you do have budgets and stuff like that. But just ask around those people in your communities that will definitely help and teach if you don't know anything. You know, just as long as you have that desire and that passion to start because that's why we do it, I think that's why I do it because I want the younger generations to keep this form of artwork going and it is our work. A lot of people, I think when I was first starting out as a beadwork artist, I didn't call myself a artist. I just did it, you know? But now that it's becoming more on an international platform and we're teaching it more in our communities and it's becoming a lost part. I think the more spaces we offer for indigenous artists, I don't care if someone doesn't say beadwork as me. That's fine. I'm all for it. I welcome it. It's not competition to me because the more spaces we create for indigenous artists, it's less space for indigenous artists to sell products saying that the speed work, you know? So that's kind of my philosophy behind it. 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