Nancy Pelosi, Senator, GOP discussed on The M Zone

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House speaker Nancy Pelosi is under fire today for refusing to send the articles of impeachment to the U. S. than at a GOP senator Lindsey Graham is now calling the decision unconstitutional she's taking a wrecking ball of the constitution this is the latest in a series of constitutional train wrecks orchestrated by Nancy Pelosi during the impeachment process the president was not allowed to have counsel present during the Intel committee you cannot call witnesses on his behalf he could not confront his accuser and now that he's been charged with two articles of impeachment Nancy Pelosi is denying the president his stay in the court in the Senate and she's actually trying to tell Mitch McConnell how to run the Senate she's trampling on the separation of powers here with me now Elliot Williams former counsel to senator sherry Democrat and a CNN legal analyst Ellie get the CEO of course senator Lindsey Graham has been in Congress a really long time what he just said is that right that it's unconstitutional for pelo see to take in this amount of time they only impeach them the president what four days ago now and is it unconstitutional that she is abusing her powers well on your first point he has been a Congress a long time so long that is largely changed his tune on impeachment he if you remember was one of the impeachment managers that engaged president Bill Clinton and so you know let's take a lot of this with a grain of salt and a lot of this has the political theater that we seen whenever one of these things comes up now a quick number the nineteen seventies schoolhouse rock quick little lesson about how these things work bill start can start in the house like any legislation they get passed in the move over to the Senate right but they could die in my house it's not automatic and impeachment to some extent is like that the house passed articles of impeachment but they don't necessarily have to send them over to the Senate now obviously the speaker has an enormous political pressure it an incentive to do so and eventually I think she should or perhaps even well but very the idea that the mere fact that the house is past articles of impeachment does not mean that they automatically have to go over to the Senate and senator Gramm knows that I think again a lot of this is political theater and a lot of this is pointing fingers you know there might be an objective to simply confuse people about it because you know it be he and house speaker policy would probably go toe to toe you know on knowing the rules and and knowing you know the sequence of events that are supposed to happen and they both you know would be able to compare their notes on that so so let's switch gears a little bit if I could then on you know these newly released you know emails from a White House official and unofficial with and if the Michael Duffy and and did highlights the sequence of the withholding of aid to Ukraine as a result of the phone call between the the two presidents United States and and Ukraine and then so there's like a ninety minute gap apparently after the phone call was made and and then suddenly you know the withholding of a so is this the ammunition now for Democrats to make their case that they want to hear from witnesses in a Senate trial if indeed there is a Senate trial yeah absolutely its ammunition so a few things about it number one these are heavily redacted emails and we should be careful without the full context of one the second we don't know you don't know I don't know I'm not at the same time under the best of circumstances what these email show is that our brains are questions about the process that happened in the White House at a minimum and a maximum of the show's corroboration of what we saw over weeks and weeks of testimony what we start through house articles impeachment which is ultimately that the president conditioned foreign aid on the opening investigations and what this is you know lawyers call circumstantial evidence it's a group that helps fill in the gaps that that would make it abundantly clear that there was a direct tie between the action taken by and being on the office of management budget and the president and the holding withholding about eight so add to any pressure now up being exerted on the Senate Majority Leader yes absolutely so Michael Duffy is the individual whose emails were in question here and this is one of the people here call that senator Chuck Schumer the Senate minority leader specifically asked to have come in and testify so this week this raises are elevates the volume around the calls for Duffy to testify and frankly it compounds the fact that in the house a number of people from the White House can I give the president just never came to testify in in France frankly the president was arguing there was an article impeachment for obstruction of Congress on the basis of not sending people like Michael Duffy to testify so absolutely the fact that we now have emails for him makes the case even clearer that he ought to come and and speak to the Senate our alley at Williams thank you so much I had a holiday T. R. happy holidays to you come again and we'll be right back copyright the Jewish distillery all of which he's a rage landed an agent again it's the reason which is so extraordinarily smooth you double H. for extras no we don't we don't kiss and tell clear any one of us they come in with things they're gonna run out with different the AJ coming with things and for me to with the from billions of mount billion the problem your gums bleeding gums painful flossing their address for you there Brett.

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