Waxman Markey, White House, Alexandria Cossio Cortez discussed on Commonwealth Club


Vow and movie Weigel in conversation with Greg Dalton. The, the green deals is the face of the green new deal is a OC Alexander Cossio Cortez congresswoman from New York. But there's another partner, Ed Markey who seems to be kind of the silent partner. He was obviously part of the Waxman, Markey, ten years ago, establishment Denic democrat on the progressive side, Ben in congress, most of all of his life, virtually how, how do you see the dynamics of those two individuals is kind of the inside veteran, and, you know, the fresh new face who has this is really a social media phenomenon right now? Yes, it's so interesting that pairing because when Alexandria Cossio Cortez was was first elected and really this, this push for the green new deal was going forward. And there was the sit in at Nancy, Pelosi's office, and really the, the young advocates of the green new deal were not going to let it beat back, Bernard and one of the things that they talked about was they felt Waxman Markey from a decade ago that that was that was to incremental. We cannot have that kind of just really working at the margins sort of legislation. That's why they're behind green the green new deal because it is a transformational. Legislation that, that's what it's calling for. So talking to them, they were very kind of this. This is an anti Waxman Markey approach to climate change. And then the next thing, you know, Alexandria, Mukasey critise, partnering with Ed Markey. And, and I think that, that shows that she sees the need to reach out to the folks who have been in this battle for, you know, decades at this point. And it also is showing that the folks who have been in this battle for decades are realizing that, you know, these green new dealers are right. We can't be incremental. We have to at this point talk about something that is truly mobilization that truly is transformational. It doesn't that mean transferring well. Wealth and power, and that some people say that's necessary. We can't just take out Brown energy put in green energy and call it a success that there's issues of wealth and power distribution here. And that's what has the Democratic Party and some people really little concerned, you know, that gets threatening to some people, Barney Frank said, it's only so much change American people can swallow at one time. So the, the MVP I certainly see as necessary, but that's also part of like it makes people uncomfortable. I think I will agree with you and definitely the opponents have kind of used that to their advantage, calling it a socialist plot and all that kind of stuff. But if you look at the reality, we can't make transition to cleaner energy with out some sort of, really strong economic policy is. That deals with the needs of these workers who are going to, you know, have their jobs, displaced, there's just no way to do that to make that transition without having some sort of economic policy that addresses workers and the, the supporters of this approach have used the new deal as, as a metaphor, because de original new deal was many, many different programs, kind of packaged together for kind of transition will have to make to address climate change. We're going to have to look at all of these aspects of the economy and hopefully, some of the transfer of wealth will be too. Address the needs of those workers and also to reward the, the businesses that have spearheaded the transition and, and have become leaders in that transition rather than holding us back. So it sounds like the Democrats are supporters of the green new dealer, laying the foundation trying to develop support develop a Bill that then gains momentum over the next couple of years. I really looking at twenty twenty one potentially when they feel like they have a position to an opportunity and a well baked Bill to possibly become law. I think that everyone is looking for twenty twenty one and that's why you see climate change being talked about by all of the presidential candidates because this looks like it will be. Hit the, the opportunity won't present itself. Until we have in the White House, somebody who supports acting on climate and really, we have the opposite. Now, we have a White House that. Denies the climate change really is an issue, which is again something you have to you cannot underestimate the impact that, that has we haven't had a White House before that just his out and out tonight. That climate change is an issue since. It note both president bushes. They, they took the issue. Seriously? And they, you can definitely quibble with how they've implemented the, you know, policy, and you can criticize. That they didn't act enough that, that President Bush forty three. Got us out of Keough. But he didn't deny the climate change was an issue. And with this White House, I don't think that and I think that the supporters of the green new deal carbon taxes, any kind of climate policy. Don't think that it has a chance under the current administration. They're.

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