Medicare, Benjamin Day, Stephanie Nakajima discussed on Medicare for All

Medicare for All


I am benjamin day. I'm stephanie nakajima and this is medicare for all the podcast for everybody who needs healthcare so today. We're gonna discuss a topic that is central to our success in winning medicare for all when we as a movement talk about what it's going to take to win often when you hear issues like fundraising publication electing the right. Legislators there's other things that usually come up. But i think there's something that maybe even more important than any of those things putting us on the path to victory and that is of course confronting the deeply ingrained racism and our structures and cells. When you look at where. The united states is in compared in comparison to its pure countries. It's impossible to explain why we are so much more of an unequal and capitalist society than everywhere else that looking at the role of racism through our history <hes>. Its impact on our safety net and the neglect and vilification of our public programs. So this is like a big conversation and we could probably have several podcasts on it but today we want to talk about racism specifically in the healthcare system and how medicare for all would and wouldn't address in a racism at the doctor's office and and then a little bit about the interrelated nature of our movements a movement with the larger fight for racial justice. And why and how. They are interconnected so ben. Do you want to introduce our guest absolutely so it is my great pleasure to introduce the wonderful person on the screen with us <hes>. Dr beata amani. Who is an associate professor for. The charles r drew university of medicine and science and <hes>. This is a timely is a lead co chair of the covid nineteen taskforce on racism and equity which is housed at the ucla center for study of racism social justice and health. Welcome dr money. I'm so excited to be here. It is great to have you so before we dive into this deep topic <hes>. Can you tell us a little bit about your background. And why did you choose to become an epidemiologist with a focus on racism and what is epidemiology. So i mean that's a that's a wonderful question. Just what is an epidemiologist. Because i think for so many people. My friend circle in my family <hes>. This current moment had them <hes>. Here in the word and being like <hes>. Isn't one of those. So epidemiology is essentially like the science and the studying of the disease distribution pattern the the distribution patterns of disease <hes> and anything associated with z's <hes>. And it's not only about studying the the distribution and the pattern of disease and its related outcomes but it's also about studying the things that go into effect right the things that are in place the policies and practices that we have what are the effects of those things on the distribution of disease disease-related outcomes. So what that meant for me <hes>. I think growing up was. I always loved <hes>. Health and i loved politics <hes>. And i was always thinking about the relationship between these two things <hes>. And so when. I know you're thinking about how to have some sort of impact especially as a young person <hes>. And you hear about like institutions. Like the cdc or the who right <hes>. You really can you know. Start to give a sense of like. What does it mean to be able to like. Go out and steady and to collect information that can be so useful that it can actually save. Lives like on a larger level. These are to me that young person you know who was really drawn to like the field of setting in a deniau genes that then overtime epidemiology. That also came to me a tool set and a set of ideas that belonged to and we're a service of a system that <hes>. Not only structured by racism. Right like us. Stephanie mentioned beginning at the heart of what we're talking about today <hes>. But also was instrumental in structuring it and and creating and maintaining that <hes>. And so then what that meant for me. Somebody who was studying it was that i was really drawn initially to infectious disease epidemiology <hes>. Because you saw so much like an equity <hes>. And also just they kind of racialized ideas about populations being generated around who's sick. Who's not risk of people who are not sick from those. Who are you know. So all those racial congregations <hes>. And then moving into what we call behavioral. Fb and the idea that <hes> people's behaviors and they're like and and you know people's behaviors and their own actions can be connected and related to their health. So there's a potential for some sort of empowerment right to what i am. I think you know today like loosely. <hes>. and specifically your social epidemiologist. Somebody who wants to study the distribution of disease and disease related factors <hes>. In populations and communities on basant understanding systems structures in power

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