Gwyneth, Jia Tolentino, Apple discussed on Still Processing

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That the way I barely make my life work is still not working that I have a nervous breakdown about it as you see in the peace, what's your reaction? Well, it's hard for me because the picture of wellness is so tied up in someone like Gwyneth and I, I actually love Gwyneth like I'm not one of those people that think she's terrible. I kind of really love her life and I love that she named apple apple, like a handy. So happy like I, I think it's hard because Gwen is co option of what now is being represented as a type of wellness aesthetic or or industry or lifestyle is really helpful to a lot of people, but because it's going and because when it is already this object of ridicule and because of the way it is distorted through the lens of goop in that you get ninety dollars B-vitamins it becomes something that's very easily dismissed and easily seen as for Fru or were suing. It's bad for the cause. No, I don't think it's bad for the 'cause I think it's bad for people who actually need those things who feel like they're not. It's unacceptable to them because this is the way it's refracted. Right. I think for people who this has always been useful for, I think particularly communities of color communities of non binary people, non gender, conforming people who who understand what it really means to have a wellness routine in need wellness as a means for survival, not leveling up and not. It's not aspirated for large swath of the community, or it's just like right inherited. You know what I mean? Like one of the relationships that I have to wellness where like herbal medicine or plant medicine is in my mother who is white, grew up very rarely in southern Virginia, and they were to Puerto the doctor. So they had, you know, a local person growing herbs that they then took. So it was born out of necessity. So like my relationship to that will never be shaped by someone like with Ryan. So I don't think it's bad for the 'cause I think it just kind of makes me feel tense because I, I don't like the way that practices that are integral to me are easily written off as nonsensical because of. The way they represented through things like, does that make sense? It makes totally. I feel the same way about the things that I do. You know, in the times where I've gone to meditation as an emergency to hear about it from people who heard about it from the guy who does like the four hour work week, just like meditate so that you can be a millionaire. Those are like, I get it. I get. Yeah. I also come from a community in very poor Husted a communities. Like, you know, my family is ultra orthodox, although they don't like that term, but being ultra-orthodox means you don't listen to podcasts. Yeah, never know. And there is a huge part of that population that did not have health insurance, and there are old women in the community who tell you that if your joints hurt stop eating tomatoes, and that's not different right than what it says on goop so I don't know. So what is all this stuff look like? Now I read a report, the. Basically said that it sometime around two thousand sixteen after the election, the search for the term wellness or maybe the term self care was both actually escalated spike through the roof, and I think that it's really fascinating to think about what we need in the performance of not only wellness but care self or otherwise. I think goop is trying very hard to represent wellness, but I think that it is doing the same thing. It does when you're searching it and they say, hey, do you want some face oil? They're looking to us to see what we want. I remember that amazing New Yorker piece Jia Tolentino wrote about skin care, right? Like that resonates to me to that, like the reaction to that is now here's where you buy it. Gwyneth will tell you all she's doing his Lincoln to the product which is different, but..

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