Amanda Knox, Attorney, Memphis discussed on Coast to Coast AM with George Noory

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A a police officer who would teach rape prevention ended up being a a rapist, and we're able to Lincoln forensically through a badge the fibers from the bangle badge. We're on the victims that we got into the interrogation and were able to get it concession out of him. A big one we did part of our thirty six serial killers. In the initial study was got him Gerald Shafer in Florida. He balanced from department to department small departments, and and would get rid of him. But they give him a good recommendation. Just get rid of him. He ended up getting caught. He he picked up two girls hitchhiking in his police vehicle took him to a motel in later on it came back the next day to pick them up in his personal car on his personal car. He had a trailer hitch and his thing would be sex. Hanging took these girls out into no area. Oh, gosh. Girls got away got away. And then the rest was made. Then the search search was done of residents. We had diaries where he wrote about some freebies crimes at the police. Never really tied anything to him. They found some Keith the longing to victims as well in search warrant. So he was good. He was convicted them onto they Lincoln about thirty thirty homicides, and he was killed in one thousand nine hundred five another inmate stabbed them to death in prison down in Florida. So when you hear that would you hear something like that does that bring you some sense of relief for Justice, or how do you how do you process that? Yeah. I I've I have when it comes to death valley. I've changed a little bit a little bit here. I was on a panel two weeks ago, New York with Amanda Knox. Help them in the next get out of prison in Italy. And also heard of the case the west Memphis three. Oh, yeah. Totally. Yeah. I felt case for series. And so I helped Damon. Was on the path. And Joe Berlinger was on the panel. With makes I helped him get out of prison with Peter Jackson director of Lord of the rings. Brought me in at the time. Everything was secret along with this group of forensic. You know, you know, experts. So you see cases like that. And now that I'm out of the bureau. I I couldn't do these kind of cases in the bureau, but now out of euro, I've been helping on cases where I see false. Confessions have been than given by innocent people wrongful wrongful convictions like in the west Memphis three like Amanda Knox with where they bring in a tag team match the case, Amanda Knox. They brought in ten police officers. Detectives who are gonna tear gator attack team over forty hours to break down. And and I always say an innocent person is easy to ensure gate than than the Kremlin himself or herself. Because the innocent person when they're curated light like this by some say a corrupt investigator. They think that the person being targeted. Well, this will be over here. Come out. I get my attorney del know that and but meanwhile, you confess or you've you've signed a confession. And the problem too. Is that it should be required everywhere, including FBI FBI doesn't use. This is is the tape tape the interrogation tape, the interviews. And I mean from the beginning to the end not not turning the tape recorder on after you got the confession because even or a scrupulous cop. Facts of the case. Now, you regurgitating back. So all the jurors will hear is. Oh, yeah. Just personally he knew everything about the case. Zoe. Him. So. So I changed. But when I see these predatory types, and there's all kinds of evidence that we have all. Yeah. Not just I witnessed testimony or some jailhouse snitch or something like that that I I I worry, and I get a lot of calls from people are saying because my attitude when I when people say. Oh, yeah. That prisons are full innocent people kind of sarcastically. But they are we have a case in Virginia Norfolk four four four navy men independently confessed to a crime they had nothing to do with. And they got a concession. But then there's DNA didn't match. But then they got into give another navy man's name cough up a name. They did an interrogation the DNA. Four four. And the guys went to prison for years, and they finally got out too many years ago. Joseph in Boston has a follow up question about police officers. Don't know why Joseph you're talking with John Douglas on coast to coast AM. And I wanna say hi to my friends, the shade tree, computer. Yes. I'm a blind person. We have a police officer a lot of them. And can you give your contact info out of the end? 'cause I don't I'm not too good on the engine case people need we have a lot of people in prison that are innocent. What does one do when one is going to be questioned because I know police officer. I don't know personally. I saw the video that killed a guy that was in a fire, and he rammed and Ray he wasn't response. He blood all over this. And he was doing this. In the witnesses said he did nothing, and there were other police officers Ozark taste the guy on the ground nineteen times has one handle it. And if we ever get arrested. What should we do if especially if for innocent and questions, go ahead talk? You don't talk you. I don't care if it's your pulled over for traffic stop. I would tell my own children as you go. And and say, I want to have an attorney attorney ITO represent. Right away. 'cause I'm not say there is a small percentage every look at the FBI as well. We have we have Senate. We'll have David Hanson Robert hand says name dance new information yet. Yeah. To Russia via. I mean, you should not be taken to a room interrogated. You should require requests you wanna speak to your to your attorney as soon as as soon as right away. Innocent. This will come out. But, but you know, you can manipulate the manipulate someone either confessed do be browbeaten and a lot of innocent people won't request an attorney. They don't they think I'll explain it to them. And but the tactics at us. I mean, you can be vulnerable. I mean, I've seen so many cases and or people even like Amanda Knox stage with her. People think she's guilty. There was no forensic evidence. Lincoln case, it was one guy. Rudy today is. Bloody prints thing prince of fecal matter in the toilet. It's him. It's nine Amanda. It's not Rafael's the boyfriend nothing nothing the west Memphis three. They they interrogate a kid with a seventy two I q you told them. There was cheese on the moon, any would've agreed with you and broke them. You know, the broke this kid down. He had nothing nothing to do. None. None of them out. The crime. But he spent eighteen years in prison Damian spent ten on death row when they were finally freed. Unfortunately, the ice. I spoke to the district attorney says what do they want? What are they want? They want to be exonerated. And he says, well, I don't know. I don't know about that. Yeah. What do you need? Well, I don't know. And I turned out why didn't know about exonerating because he was running for political office. Right. And he votes looking for, you know, this is so we're talking with John Douglas. You'll have a few more minutes, and then we'll get to open lines. But I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you at the very end of follow up question from this. But first, let's get to sue in Atlanta on a wildcard line on coast to coast AM for John Douglas, sue. Thanks to the completely creepy. Song from silence of the lambs. Anyway..

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