Listen: Senator Graham, Wendy Sherman, Iran discussed on Kickass News
"Hi, I'm Ben Mathis. Welcome to kick ass news folks for the handful of you who've listened to this podcast. From the very beginning, you might recall an early episode I did with Senator Lindsey, Graham who voiced his vehement opposition to the two thousand fifteen Iran nuclear agreement. At the time I cited with Senator Graham among other things, echoing the argument that Iran would be able to quickly ramp up its nuclear weapons program. Once the deal sunsets and while Senator Graham in a rare show of support for President Trump endorsed the US withdrawal from the deal in may of this year, I on the other hand, did not why. First of all, I confess that I've never actually read the one hundred and one page agreement. And over the past three years of doing this show, I've talked to many people who have read it, and the one thing that every leader and foreign policy intelligence in the military on both the right in the left hawks and doves alike. All agree on the world was better off with a new. Klier deal than without. I'm not afraid to admit that I was wrong, and that's why I'm welcoming embassador, Wendy Sherman to the podcast among her many accomplishments during her years at the State Department, she was the lead negotiator on the joint comprehensive plan of action, better known as the Iran nuclear agreement. And she's written about that experience and many others in her new book titled not for the faint of heart lessons, encourage power and persistence today she explains why she wanted to write more than just a memoir, but a book of practical lessons in leadership in negotiation. She says she's prepared for comparisons with Donald Trump's art of the deal which by the way she has red and she has some useful advice for the dealmaker and chief on how he could be a much more effective negotiator with both our allies and our adversaries. She recalls working with secretary of State, Madeleine, Albright, to halt North Korea's nuclear ambitions in the nineties and how they came so close to an agreement only to see the. Efforts derailed by the chaos of the two thousand election. She explains why negotiating with North Korea is always one part diplomacy and one part absurdity. She recalls her personal interactions with the dear leader, Kim Jong Il and weighs in on how his successor and son, Kim Jong, UN measures up. Then ambassador Sherman talks about the many months of diplomacy both covert into over that went into the nuclear agreement with Iran, how much was lost when President Trump decertified the deal and what her colleagues across the negotiating table or saying about it. Now she explains why the negotiation was a lot like solving a rubik's cube, just how heated things got behind closed doors and why sometimes tactics are no substitute for pure raw human emotion coming up with ambassador, Wendy Sherman in just a moment.."