Soviet Union, Joseph Stalin, Britain discussed on John Batchelor


Philosophizing of the metrics and the results all these years decades later of the world crisis that continues with this look at the map in the second world wars nineteen thirty nine to nineteen forty one. The US is attacked in nineteen forty five the destruction of Berlin. And they firebombing of Tokyo, and the atomic bombs Joseph Stalin is also in both parts of the war body switches sides, and that is so peculiar you go again and again up against that irony. Victor, what to take of Stalin the fact that he was participating in the torment and the butchery in Poland. And then he became alkyl Joe. And even worse. He he was supplying forty percent of the Third Reich fuel needs when they were conducting the Blitzer were Britain. So literally those donors and Heinkel bombers say, no fire London more fueled by Russian oil and refined gal. So the point is Churchill was a realist. And so when the Soviet Union was invaded by Germany in June twenty second there were a lot of people in Britain, enemy United States that was still mutual isolation. It should but these to fight it out and Churchill came to the conclusion almost immediately that Germany would win if that were the case because the Soviet Union lack things like aluminum it left aviation fuel it lacked radios boots and that the United States and Britain could supply key areas of its material, and then that would siphon off the Third Reich army, and he understood in. Another thing that neither United States or Britain invested forty percent of their military budgets and Aaron land power had ever been continental powers by that. I mean, there were five million Germans in the German army, and it was the finest army in the world, maybe the finest ever scene, and it would take the Red Army to kill two out of three German soldiers, which is what they eventually did finally. Churchill enrolls about to lesser extent. We'll we'll never comfortable with stolen because he was he cut a deal with every major belligerent in the war. I mean, he had a nonaggression pact with Germany and by extension with Italy. He cut in April of nineteen forty one a nonaggression pact with the Japanese turn their attention toward us. He cut a deal with us, of course in Britain, which he's sort of violated, and certainly as January February nineteen forty five when he went into eastern Europe. So and he hadn't thought well, I mean the Soviet army had never fought well outside the borders of Russia. Very dismal performance in Poland in nineteen thirty nine. It has done very poorly in Finland it hit back along long side earlier in the Spanish, civil war. So. A lot of people's minds. It was sort of well, it will run through the Soviet Union lead. I'm let's just let them fight. It was a great. I think insight of Churchill and that that might be true. And that might be worse even. Then seen the Soviet victory. So he made that decision almost immediately to arm the person that had wanted him to be destroyed just weeks. Earlier the decision later on working with Stalin to make demand of unconditional surrender. You present the case that that that created ferocity that had not been seen in previous wars because they were destroying absolutely everything. They were not going to negotiate and yet during that period. Stalin was always certain that he was going to be portrayed by a separate piece. He thought Roosevelt was going to betray him. And he thought Truman and fact, I think he's still thought they were going to betray him when Truman replaced Roosevelt in the Potsdam conference Stalin was an unreliable ally was that this is revisionist a little bit just for a moment. Victor was that a weakness of the ally caused to deal with Stalin through these three year four years. Yeah. In in one way, it is I can sympathize with that you because he was a project. So. Yes. Everything that he would like to do himself. He impugned. Other people even though we were very pretty much straight with him. But again in the in the allied way of thinking is at most we're going to be able to get ninety American divisions, and maybe thirty Canadian and British divisions. And that's not going to be enough to get to Berlin, given our responsibilities. Remember stolen did not help those responsibilities and the Pacific in Italy in the metal training under the water with the submarine campaign camping strategic bombing campaign. So we were willing to do almost anything possible to supply the Red Army and keep stolen in a very one dimensional war. Well, we fed those trucks Britain ran those convoys. They kept him alive through forty two three hundred three hundred seventy five thousand American. Trucks. And remember what the height of the irony and that was after the nonaggression pact with the Japanese in April of nineteen forty one day facto turn their attention to Pearl Harbor. They never broke that agreement. So think of the irony that also the warships were Leeming, Portland and Seattle Laden with goods the Soviet Union going right through the waters in which American ships were burning Japanese subs. Japanese carriers, and they were on touched by the Japanese is a major weight of weather stomach and unloaded Soviet material. And they did not break that pack either side until the last two weeks or Davis Hanson, the second world wars when we come back the villains..

Coming up next