Steve Marsh, Minnesota, Vince Mcmahon discussed on Glenn Beck
Nine to noon today and tomorrow. After our talk about civility will we're going to pivot here for a little bit. Talk about something. That's not very civil. But boy was it fun. I know that many of the listeners enjoyed this the way I did as a kid and it is one of Minnesota's legacies. We can talk about posted notes or lucky charms or all the great things that have come out of Minnesota. But I think one of the most iconic things is professional wrestling. And the Awa and joining us now is Steve Marsh, Steve's a writer, and he penned a piece for Minneapolis, Saint Paul magazine about the history of the Awa, and I gotta tell you. It was a little romantic as I started to think about those Saturday and Sunday mornings in front of the TV with the bowl of cereal, and then acting out those moves with my buddies later in the week, Steve thanks for joining us. Yeah. So you went to a local wrestling match in started to kind of relive Minnesota's legacy. What did you find a lot of a lot of these guys? They're maybe not a lot. A lot of them are getting up there in age and they're still around the state like a Bloomington alone. You know, I found the sod BUSTER was there. And he the sod BUSTER any the sod BUSTER, I went up to Saint Cloud, and I met with Larry. The hammer. Yeah. The will the app the ax Hennig the AXA. Yeah. Mid-upper dad? Yes. From Robbins, Dale Minnesota are used to. I went to church every Sunday, I would watch wrestling. And then I go see jumping Jim Brown's Al a few rows ahead of me. And he actually met me downtown, Minneapolis. But he's still out there. Lake burn ganja, son. Greg is in Bloomington. He was kind enough to meet with me. And what did they say about kind of? I mean, they're still around wrestling is obviously, I think one of the big things you pointed out was Vern ganja came up with this. Minnesota was the birthplace. But none of them got rich off of it. Did they well? I mean, Minnesota wasn't the birthplace. It was like it was kind of like the mob in that every every kind of region have their own kind of wrestling promotion. Yes. And and burn Donges was he was our local boss, Scott. I think what he did come up with is this. He was a television star. And she got it on television his own his own promotion, and he really cared about trying to make it as real as possible. You know, like he was really caught up because he was a a gopher. A great wrestler in real life. And he never got his because he's a little shorter than some of the glue stats was the the big star the fifties when Byrne was coming up. Yep. And he never got to beat Liu says 'but championship belt. So he bought his own promotion. Got the balance out, but he did really care about like does it look good. You know, does it does it look real the production competitive? You know, is can these guys really hammer each other and take bumps? Yep. You know in in the ring, and then and then in the just whatever his strategy was he ended up uncovering star after star after star like, you know, he trained he trained hulk HOGAN yuppie who who he is. He he literally trained, you know. Jesse ventura? Yup. All these guys came through here, you know. And they they that is I think what people. I mean. I think I mean, I truly grew up with it. And then watched it exploded onto the national scene to the WWE. And that's where Vince McMahon kind of nationalized it, and there were these regional wrestling circuits as they say and Vern brought it to TV. And then I remember when we got cable than TNT had some of the southern circuits, and then those kind of blew up into the WWE. But if I if you think about it those characters I thought, you know, the story about the claw in the magazine this month was fascinating. Because the reason he became a close because he couldn't talk to the camera. Right. Well, I mean, she she was hot and just like this all this stuff, the nomin closer and everything comes out of the carnival. Circuit and in the same way. Like, you have kind of an apprenticeship and baron. Von Raschke apprentice, wasn't his mentor. Wasn't burned gonyea was actually mad dog. Yep. Under his wing and taught him how to how to rile up a crowd how to get them to care about something to and and he used the stock character at the time, which was which was the nasty the German, the German German, and then it was in the ring when Barron learned for his finishing move by the Kiwi wrestler who was like, hey, put it put your hand on my head. And he forgot about it. He forgot about it until like it was like more than a year later. And then the guy's like, hey, you know, put your climbing again. And then he was like, oh, wait this could be my move. Yeah. So yeah, it's more. Like, I mean, it's not too many generations removed not at all from the the county fairs, and and and the Carney used to come through town like in when they say things like Cape pay or getting you over. This is all carnival speak. Still like, this is kind of old timey stuff that that that the real innovator here, the guy who has changed the culture, and I think impacted our culture beyond wrestling, and you know, just ain't nothing of how he's impacted boxing Mayweather that thinks he's taught him. How to do is Vince McMahon junior ruthless kind of New York sharpie who took his dad's regional mob business international. You know? Yeah. No. I think that's good. We're talking to Steve Marsh writer for Minneapolis, Saint Paul magazine about the Awa and American wrestling association, Vern ganja. Just the stars that came up through there. And that was one of the pieces of the so many of these people came out of college wrestling and they needed a job, but they've done needed a stick. And one of the things was the Chad Hartman, and I were talking about the other day was depending on who was the villain at the time. Some of these characters would change which country their allegiance what's from. And we were thinking about the chic and that he was from Iran and Iraq sometimes same show. And if you think about, you know, geopolitics today that foreshadowed allied lot. Yeah. I mean like. The same way. When Trump like uses talks about the wall. Yes. These these evil terrorists who are coming through our southern border. It's the same BS that. Iron Sheik used. Just trying to get under the skin. Now, it used to be okay. It used to be about it. It it was like opera for the working classes where we'd all auto into the Civic Center. And and even if you're a plight person, you'd scream your head off, and you get it out of your system, and then reality would start when you got home. And now it just feels like man everything's Awa. It's all been in the blender for awhile here. Stephen now, it's an interesting new cocktail that we're all drinking every day. Our first hour today. Steve if you weren't listening was about civility in politics. So right, there you go. I it is. There are some parallels always been show biz aspects of politics there half. But the way that that that Donald Trump is literally taken some techniques from from McMahon that were developed for over decades in in the upper midwest here by Vern Donya, and his basically troupe of actors who are gladiators, you know, what? Trump wants had a battle with Vince McMahon, right? Yeah. They they had a they they were actually in wrestlemainia together. There was it was like a again. This is an old Carney thing. The the the loser have to shave his head. You know, let me guess nobody lost. I think Vince loss. Now, of course, he won Donald Donald one. He d he doesn't lose and he's not tired to win. And yet, Steve if you haven't heard well, and whether he wins or loses he we care either way he gets over every single day every single hour. That's for. Sure. Well, Steve, thanks for joining us. It was a great piece. I encourage listeners to pick it up to Minneapolis Saint Paul this month. It's on the cover is all about beer, and it's a great piece on the history of professional wrestling, the depth and the characters of Minnesota, and it was a great rate, especially going back to my childhood. I'm voice Olsen. I'm in. Thank you very much. Thank you. Steve. I'm in nine to noon today. And we're talking about civility. We're talking about wrestling the last hour, we're gonna talk to the battle of diner represented Dario and Salamo and and his challenger Heather Adelson are going to be in studio might be Minnesota's most expensive house race. And we're going to talk to them about what it's like all the outside mail. 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