Michael Blouse, Rome, Rome Michael Regicide discussed on John Bachelor

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And I enjoy taking pieces of history and putting together in. Attempting to interpret, the clutter of the current events around us in this instance it has to do with, what Michael and I have dubbed the new American civil war which Victor Hanson of the Hoover Institution in these last hours has told me is already underway and I'm accepting that it's. Already underway and I'm looking to Rome for what that means the striking fact. Is that it's possible that means we're permanently in civil war there will be no resolution as there was, in, the eighteen sixties or even after the new deal revolution remade understanding of the power of the federal government in the nineteen thirties and forties having to do with a conflict. Overseas that was a complication of the failure of European government but right now we're. Speaking to the future twenty first twenty second twenty third century that's how long. Civil war can go on because that's what happened in Rome Michael regicide It drove the Roman civil war not just. The first one, with Caesar and Pompey and Crassus but also the one that followed September severance you've named, his son one son murdered the other one but that there was never going to be stability after that there were off times governors of major provinces Britain for example or Panonia or. Syria who would lay claim and challenged roam the senators themselves were always being. Sent to govern one particular province or another and then propose themselves as all powerful because they contain can, control, the legions in their province so regicide drives civil war and we're now watching on television on two particular cables but really all three cables discussed the topic and the front. Pages of the New York Times and the Washington Post two of our major newspapers. The removing of Donald Trump four and then fill in the blank that is. A rolling Form of regicide that in the Roman example Michael. Did not lead to stability it led to, the, opposite to, a kind of anarchy, where no one believed that we could. Elect someone to to bring us together where everyone shows their own kings is, that inevitable Michael are we inevitably in that pathway now regicide really is the outcome that makes. Legitimate a system that has, come apart in other words regicide is the act but. The act is preceded by a rejection of the legitimacy of up the ruling party and it's you know selected region right the emperor and what's, happened today over the course, of time I think really since the two thousand election but But, sort of culminating with twenty sixteen election is, that Both parties are at a point and of course right now the dominant driving. Force in terms of unseating the emperor is is blue but the fact is that. Both parties cannot accept the other party being in power and what is important about American history is that there has always been an acceptance of of a new force in American politics where one party surges into power. And unseats the other and creates a new party system and we've had six so far and even the collapse of the party system and the coming apart of the US from the civil war led to, a medical in after the war in eighteen seventy six A re-acceptance of this and what what you have now is a A. Determination to make is the central driving. Element of your, political agenda the overthrow of whoever is in power and of course what that means is that neither side can present somebody. Who can be, considered by all as the emperor has the president and you know you can see this in Rome in the sense that In its heyday the, emperor of the new emperor in Rome would always be acclaimed ritually by. The Roman Senate and the Roman people. That was necessary, to legitimate the fact that he was accepted by all the major elements in the Roman polity and that is no longer. The case in, the United States and so even though that's a symbolic Situation it is actually quite worrisome because, what it means is that there is no path forward to a unifying figure that either side can only present a leader an emperor who is unacceptable to the other side and that is exactly what happened to Rome and it, is unique and new I would argue in the American experience. And even though it hasn't led yet To a violent contest or confrontation The fact that this is the state of American political consciousness means that were very likely to get to two or some sort of terrible reckoning? In the years. Ahead is it I'm not, gonna I'm not gonna be anything but a negative here is it because, we're already plunged into this Michael and we. Doesn't have a name right now is that why we. Are so so, comfortable with it now the words I don't hear a lot of. Resistance to this or a reluctance I don't hear voices. On television or. In the newspapers looking for piece I hear contests being thrown up by very articulate people Using language that is irretrievable, it's it's violent language well we're we're not. Talking about twentieth century civil wars like Germany and Spain. Or Columbia or, Mexico but but I have to raise the specter of these earlier. Civil wars and revolutions by saying one of the features. That precedes the. Outbreak of civil war is the embrace of the drama Right Exciting sort of peak, life trauma of of a plunging in to violent confrontation and using using the language of of Go on YouTube. And look, at, violent clashes between and pizza. And the alright. You would see an almost a joyous, embraced up battle all right we'll we'll, return to this idea I, don't wanna I don't wanna get too negative here although we're on the edge of it Michael blouse of, Johns Hopkins looking simply at Rome is a model would spin done before I'm John Batchelor.

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