Get to join us for it. So let's do it. Josie, you're here finally welcome to fat mascara. What's up, Jen? So happy to be here. Thank you so much. Such an honor. I'm so excited to have you here. I have to say this. I know because I've met you when your brand launch, I met you. But people pick up your products at Sephora, they see you on QVC. Maybe not QVC that doesn't count. But they pick it up at Sephora, and they're like, Josie Moran, who is this lady? If they don't know who you are already. So if someone asked you, who are you? How do you answer? First of all, I've been correcting how to say my name since I was very young. Correct me. Yes, I'll correct you. Josie Marin. And it rhymes with Karen, which has gotten kind of a funny stigma in the last few years. But Josie maron. Yeah. Well, first, that's the first thing to tell people love that. This Josie maran. Who's desi marn? Jesse Marin has a vision for the beauty industry to be healthy and inspiring and empowering. So she tried to create a brand that would do that. And I have to ask you, what did you do before you started the brand in case anybody doesn't know? So I was a spunky motherfucker. Officially, my first remembering of my thoughts is I will be one of the ones to change the world. So I think I've been on curious questioning spunky motherfucking journey, figuring out what that means and how I was going to do it. And on the way, was I started modeling when I was 12. I mean, that's like a big piece of my story because it affected so much of where I am now. So I started modeling when I was 12. I sat in the makeup chair for many years. I still do. And my mother was, I guess this is the brand story. But where was I? I started modeling. Yeah. So growing up, this thought that you had that you're going to change the world. Did that come as a kid? The first, I think, very young kid. Yes. And were you named after someone? My mom and dad well actually my real name, this is also something cool. My real name is Johanna. Oh, okay. Which means gracious one, which I carry deeply into my being. And tried to embody everything I do, being gracious. And so but my parents never called me Johanna they called me Josie since day one. They had a dog named Josie at some point. And so they made me Josie. I don't really know, I guess I should get clearer on that story, but I've been Josie, even though my real name is Johanna, which is an interesting thing to live with having a real name that you never use. I bet there's some people out there though. All this spookiness was that there from the start? I think Josie is actually a pretty spunky name. So yes, it was there from the very start. I was a rebel rascal. I was just, yeah, always looking. For good trouble. And so 12 seems to me kind of young to start a career in anything and modeling, obviously, is what you were doing. How did you get that break? Did you want to be a model? Did someone discover you? Yeah, I did not try to be a model. I think probably most successful models didn't go out and try to be a model. But so I was at a family barbecue and this woman who was a photographer, family friend. She said, you want to do a cover of parents, it wasn't parents. It was like this local magazine. I said, yes. And then she said, can I introduce you to an agency in San Francisco? And they said yes. And then my first thing after that first little shoot was a fashion benetton fashion show. And it was so cool. In San Francisco, which is like already like, you know, edgy and cool and just like very diverse. And I was just in this benetton, it was like very 80s. I was born in 78, so I was 90s. 90. 1990. I got to wear a scarf on my head in the show, and I just thought it was the coolest thing I wore it to a birthday party soon after. And I was like, walked in with this huge scarf on my head, everyone looked at me like, I was like, what? It's my new style. It was actually interesting being a model as a kid, because you want to talk about your life, but it always became a thing. And everyone was like, oh, she's a model. And then go to a party and everyone's like, oh, there's a model. And it just started making me feel different and I don't know, you just separated from the people and so anyway, I don't know what that really has led to, but if I think about it, I could tell you, I think it's probably had made me have to deal with having encouraged, like built courage and to being kind of like a hard ball or different than people. When so back then, it's like not everybody had a phone and was taking pictures all the time and when you first got on that set for that first photo shoot, what did you feel like when they picked up the camera? Were you like immediately into it and performing? Yeah. What vibe made your movie? I was made for the shit. I just loved it. I literally still to this day, look down the barrel of a camera. Even on these Zoom calls and stuff, I always look down the barrel where you're not supposed to be supposed to look at your screen at the people, and I'm always looking right down the barrel of that camera like, hi. I'm here. I got you. I'm going to give you so much love, right now. Like for QVC, I have this vision every time I look down the barrel of that camera that I'm speaking to a million beautiful women who are just and I'm just giving them I'm like spreading so much love. I'm like uplifting and empowering and just loving them up so much. And I love it. I think that whole belief of I will be one of the ones to change the world. It's becoming a parent that I like to help people. And so this is my platform. This is my way of being able to help people is through the camera often. And I mean, it feels like you had fun doing this. You sound like talking about this was a hardship for you. But what was the most fun shoot you've ever been on? I love.