Listen: Michael Cohen, President Donald Trump, Donald Trump discussed on MSNBC Rachel Maddow (audio)
"Well, the trust in this case is that supposedly independent entity that President Donald Trump signed over all his business interests to after he was sworn in as president. That's the entity a month after he was sworn in that started systematically paying Michael Cohen for having made that illegal payoff during the campaign. That's where the money came from and who controls the trust that was making these payments. While the president says, the trust is now run by these guys, his eldest sons, Donald junior, and Eric Trump president, put his business interests in Trump, put his sons in charge of it. It is the trust that paid Cohen back for his balloon illegal payments during the campaign. Again from the from the criminal information, quote, executive one forwarded that Email to another employee at the company stating, please pay from the trust. Eric Don Jr. run the trust. So the president's personal lawyer yesterday in federal court directly implicated the president himself in at least two felonies to which Michael Cohen himself has now pled guilty. Last night on CNN, Michael Cohen's lawyer. Lanny Davis suggested that Michael Cohen also has information to share that would be of interest to prosecutors that relates to the Trump foundation. The charity today that made something happened in the world. The people who are investigating the Trump foundation as a potential criminal matter subpoenaed, Michael Cohen to give them whatever testimony he's got about the Trump foundation. He apparently sprinted right over. In addition last night, Coen's lawyer Lanny Davis told us here on this show that Michael Cohen also has information about the president potentially having advanced notice of the criminal hacking that happened during the campaign in which Russian government hackers attacked Democratic Party computers to recap, Vic, and steal information that was used to help Trump win the election. We don't know exactly what Lanny Davis meant by that very carefully worded statement that he made on this show last night. But today there has been a lot of focus on this reference on page sixteen of the criminal information against Cohen in which prosecutors say that when Michael Cohen got his reimbursement from the Trump organization from a business for these expenses he had made during the campaign, the expenses of these. The payoff which he now admits was an illegal felonious expenditure when he got reimbursement for that for the legal payoff, he also asked the Trump organization to pay him back. Fifty thousand dollars for quote tech services. And prosecutors, say in the criminal information that fifty thousand dollar claim, quote, in fact, Cohen had solicited from a technology company during an in connection with the campaign. Michael Cohen supposedly wasn't part of the campaign at all. So under what circumstances would he have been spending a nice round, fifty thousand dollars on something tech related. That in fact was for the campaign that he would later seek reimbursement from reimbursement for from the Trump organization. He sought that reimbursement for that fifty thousand dollars in tech expenditures, right alongside the reimbursement. He was already getting from them for his illegal cash payoff to stormy Daniels, the one that he's now going to do prison time for. We don't know that fifty thousand dollars was that Michael Cohen laid out to benefit the campaign and then he was paid back for by the Trump organization. We don't know what that was, but I will note for the record. Because you should note this is out there that what Michael Cohen is accused of in the Steele, dossier is meeting with Kremlin representatives in August and September two thousand sixteen to discuss, quote, deniable, cash payments to operatives who were participating in the anti-clinton hacking campaign organized by the Russian government quote, according to redacted the agenda comprised questions on how deniable cash payments were to be made to hackers who had worked in Europe under Kremlin direction against the Clinton campaign and various contingencies for covering up those operations.."