David, Geoffrey West, Sergei Young discussed on Democracy Now!
Sergei Young, who is the founder of the Longevity Vision Fund, and also author of the New book, The Science and Technology of Growing Young, Sergei. It's so great to have you on today. Hi, David. Thanks for having me today. My pleasure. So let's just jump right in. Um, I've recently been reading, Uh, In addition to your book, the book scale by Geoffrey West. And one of the things that Jeffrey West talks about is that when it comes to human aging, when you look mathematically at metabolic rate and a few other sort of basic factors, it seems as though the top and kind of natural lifespan if you avoid car accidents and infectious disease, and you know the best scenario. Is about 120 years of age. Now, one of the things I find really interesting about your book. As you start to talk about this in steps you talk about living to 1 50 You talk about that. So you're not just jumping in and saying as some do 1000 years of life span is very, very soon on the horizon. You're you're talking about incremental, so talk to us about that. I mean, how do we go from this natural limit of 100 to 1 20 up to 1 50. Perfect. Great question. So Well, let's let's start from today. What are the options that we have today? To extend our lifespan? So, frankly speaking, all of them? You know, people could colon boring or my mom told me that So it's lifestyle changes its early diagnostic using power of wearables technologists. This will help us to live 200. Healthy and happy years. So that's that's what we can do today from today's like a stage of development of technology and science. This is actually pretty important because we have something exciting in the field of longevity, science and technology coming to all of us in the next 10 to 20 years within what I call in the book near Horizon of Longevity innovation, but it's very important to stay on Longevity Bridge. And be asked, healthy and happy as possible. So then, in 10 20 years time our body and mind is worth extending its resource. So that's one and it's like a separate part of the book is a bonus chapter is is as as twice as long as any other chapter. There's so many things you can do today I call it 10 longevity choices. So then, the second piece, uh, is a near horizon of longevity, Innovation and again. This is technologists and scientific breakthroughs, which will be available to all of us in the next 10 15 20 years And when people ask me what are the most exciting from this list? I'm always talk about Jin editing engine therapy. Organ regeneration, our ability to regrow and replace organs inside our bodies similar to what we do with the old car, extending its resource and longevity and appeal in the next 10 years will have Completely new class of drugs, which will focus on aging and score rather than any particular disease. This is the kind of drugs that we have today. So that's again near Horizon of longevity, and then There is something more on the horizon it its goal far horizon of longevity innovation, and I'm talking about technologies, which will be available to us in the next 25 to 50 years from now, And this is when men and machine will become one where, when we talk about integration between computer power and and human intellect. And, um, without changing the definition of human. It's going to be very difficult to live beyond Huntington, 2400 and 50 years, So okay, let's let's stop there for a second, because that's really important. So You. You seem to be acknowledging that there is this sort of metabolic and cellular natural ceiling to human longevity. That is going to need some more major change for intervention in order to be extended significantly. Yes. So what we can do within the car and biological view on the human body biological perspective. Here's a limit whether it's handed or 124 130 years. I don't know, but it's obviously in this field, so then we need we would need to complement the biological perspective and engineering or technological perspective and look at the integration of this for us to be able to live longer, but The bigger question is not the science and not in technology. The biggest question is ethics and regulation because we have created technology to extend our lives, David, but We haven't created life that we want to extend 60 to 80% of people in the world, depending on the country would say no to life extension opportunities, so we will need to sort out a lot of ethical issues and almost create a new, amazing version of this world and society. For us to embrace the idea of longer living. I call it morality of immortality. And this is my biggest war. This is my biggest concern. This is what we need to have a conversation about ethical choses before we embrace the technology. Yeah, well, you know, I've interviewed, uh, longevity researcher Aubrey de Grey several times over the last 15 or so years, And he often makes news for the things that are more Salacious that, he says, like the first person to live to 1000 has already been born or something like that. And, you know, maybe that's true. Maybe it's not. But that's what I find more interesting about what he says are when I bring up The ethical considerations how triage considerations change If the upper limit of life is extended, or what is the economic impact? What is the environmental impact of people living so much longer? He says. It's sort of. Well mostly work itself out like if people live a lot longer, the birth rate will go down. For example. What do you think about that? So I do believe that there's so many things that we need to change in this world for us to be able to enjoy this far horizon of longevity, so few of them like I do believe in longevity and longevity. Technology has an opportunity to become a unifying theme for the nation and for society because someone need to close inequality gap. Which is widening all the time. So I did. My mission is to.