Google, Bill Joy, John Door discussed on The Tim Ferriss Show

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I'm also teaching a class on artificial intelligence applied to science at Caltech. Another fantastic institution. I've spent some time with Peter because I went to Princeton undergrad and had a chance to hear him as a guest speaker. And then went to GSP to sit in on his class when he was teaching many many years ago back when I had more hair, and in that class are there any particular resources or books that you like to point people to for those who want to learn like, you said a lot lot of things have been coda fide in the last few decades. What's interesting is a lot of the things that I'm talking about are still not written down from the engineering science perspective. How do you manage a large ofter project? I'm not aware of the defining book. That describes that there's plenty of technical books about aspects of softer. But the culture of software is still evolving. An example is that a recent change is to essentially a pair programming where somebody writes code, another one checks it. There are languages a recent languages called the go language which. Is designed around that principle. Right. So we just presume that's how programming is done. These were all things that were not worked out at the time without plugging my own books. Too much. We teach how Google works in in Pierre Wendell in my class at Stanford, which is very very highly ranked class and having just done it. I still think that the basic lessons that we that we talk about and how Google works which are fundamentally it's the product it's the product it's the product it's recruiting it's recruiting it's recruiting and transparency of how you operate are sort of key lessons that we learned and they're caught in that book. And I think we can we can segue towards Google because we're going to spend quite a bit of time on it. And we may hit some of the intervening chapters along the way, you mentioned Bill joy earlier, and as you mentioned legendary for his prowess as a as a programmer who also then spent some time as venture capitalist, and it it it's when I look at it was an interviewer talk that given this is actually on the Stanford. Yes, be site. You mentioned an approach that he had one of his purchase. So he'd find an area of interest. Look up research papers about it. He figure out the two or three best authors, and then call them, and it a by the way, these are people who no one ever call. So they'd call them back. And then he would ask them. What's the most interesting thing in your field? And I bring this up because I am segues to another venture capitalist named John door. And but before we get into the role that John played Cording to my reading at least in your introduction to Google what what who has John door. What makes him special? You can answer that of course, in any order. John. Was this mythical figure that I'm at when I first joined son, he seemed everywhere, and he was one of these prodigies at sales..

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