Teeth. Medicaid and chip cover made the children's dental services including the training for a treatment and feelings. For more information about children's mental health, contact your healthcare provider, visit T-shirt, kid now dot gov or call 877-543-7669. On message from the centers for Medicare and Medicaid services. You're listening to Native American galling. I'm Sean spruce. We're talking with award winning writer and filmmaker, Julian brave noise cat today. He's our February native in the spotlight. He's a strong voice when it comes to native advocacy. If you have comments or questions for him, you're welcome to join the conversation. We're at one 809 9 6 two 8 four 8. That's one 809 9 native. Julian, before break, you were talking a little bit about the ground penetrating radar and the significance of that with regard to these Canadian residential schools. And you were sharing a little bit of family history and this is personal for you. Yeah, I mean, essentially, the difficulty and challenge of doing this project for me personally, and I think for everybody involved with the investigation, whether or not they're making a film about it. Is that the residential school experience was from sort of my family's perspective and I think my community's perspective. So horrible that it wasn't talked about often. My grandmother, for example, still rarely if ever talks about what happened at the schools and there's really just a couple stories that she shares that I've heard those stories many times now. And a lot of her experiences just stuff that she doesn't feel comfortable speaking about. She's gotten support to help with all of it. But it's largely unspoken, which I think is, I think, speaks to just how awful the experience was, that it's the kind of trauma that people, you know, aim to memory hole and forget and not talk about it. And then I think it also speaks to, I believe, as a storyteller and as someone who believes the power of words, I think that part of the challenge of getting through this trauma is our ability to actually talk about what has happened because once we speak to that truth and talk about what had happened and how that impacted our families and how that is still impacting so it's still impacting us. I think that that's how we can actually start to really heal and to work through some of these challenges. But without being able to talk about it, it's very hard to do any of that. So that's been essentially what this project has been about for me and I think what it's been about for so many of the other people involved and it's been incredibly it's been like honestly one of the greatest solders of my life to watch. To have the opportunity to do this with myself with my family and then also to watch other members of our community take this on so bravely and to speak their truth and to try to try to move forward despite some truly awful, awful things. Now you recently traveled to the Vatican I assume it was with regard to these issues and the upcoming documentary. I actually tried to sneak into the back. Yes. And both me and my co direct, you did. And I tried to sneak it because I knew she was going to try to think in to try to get the shot. And I guess I could say one of us succeeded in one of us did not, but we both tried. Okay, wait, how does this work? How does somebody how do you sneak into I mean, that's a heavily armed, it's basically a fortress, isn't it? It is a fortress. There's a lot of levels of security. You know, we took different approaches. I'll say one of us, one of us was with our participant, one of our subjects was part of the delegation of survivors who went for the Pope's apology to residential school survivors. And so she. Emily tried that angle of going with going with our subject. And then I tried the angle of talking my way in saying like, oh, what do you mean? I'm not on the list. And one of us had more success than the others, and that's probably a story that we should Dave until the documentaries out. But it's a really, it was quite the experience. And you know, what was really fascinating about it to me was so ironic was that the Catholic Church was doing this apology to residential school survivors. And yet they would not let any outside media into the actual room where the apology was being delivered to cover it. So, and this is at the same time as they have not released a lot of documents still with regards to the residential school experience. So on the one hand, they wanted to say, sorry, and they wanted to finally let the truth be known, but they wouldn't even let outside media into the actual chamber where the apology happened, which was, in my opinion, he delivered the entire apology in Italian to a room full of people who did not speak Italian. You know, it was a big kind of anti climactic moment anyways. And yet they let us in because it's the Catholic Church. It was so it was so strange. I interviewed somebody else who was there and she said, we didn't even know what was happening. It was all an Italian and he just kind of was talking and then somebody later said, oh yeah, he apologized or something like that. It was just like really non significant for those people that were in the room. One that he ended it by going bye bye.