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Paid for the HOOPLA those little more so we had a little leeway to experiments so we tried these the fall raspberries which are the ones that they're on the first year. Dan Yeah I do phenomenally and the greenhouse so we can we can keep the with the plastic shell over then we can keep the rain off until I'm telling you don't get moldy. Keep the birds could kits birds out thing we can roll down the sides of the WHO. Have we have a early frost you a couple of weeks. We certainly have a frost we can roll decide to protect them because they're continuously flowery how about the fruit flies bearing so and so he can protect them from the frost and then yeah we do the fruit flies spot that'll totally new pests that's causing all kinds of headaches yep in Vermont now and they do enjoy raspberries and that keeping a dry environment they like a moist environment uh-huh greenhouse dry and we put landscape fabric on underneath the planet's so also keeps it warm and dry. They're they're not as prevalent an awful Nancy picking machine. She's out there should take every day make sure that none of the berries as a Har- hanging around and being targeted by the by the five they go after ripe fruits yeah like right overripe and you're just GonNa get into an outbreak all you have to you have to pick them very closely. so do what what about the currency you said you did black currants black pants and red currents and gooseberries light current all in the same genus. We call it a riot yeah and they're you know I'm Irish. My mother is from Ireland election for the fruit grown. Ah on the Emerald Isle there. My mother loved so in it and then we started teaching people about them. I'm here and they're really catch on pretty well. What do you do with the with the gooseberries. Greenbury isn't it the Green Stripe read some we have some called black velvet tired of really dark almost black color it's quite ability in the in the color on them so each variety you can tell it's I thought about summer just get a little pink blush and then they're right in front of the anthem until they get really dark dark but yeah we tell a lot out of those two jam maker's. Oh sure yeah customer you know. Some people like makers very damn because we've had a few people by some news. Berry Pie yeah by northern Europeans people have moved here or out of that ancestry are interested in is these yeah my dad grew gooseberries and he may be the only person in in western Pennsylvania Hansel veins that was gooseberries. Most people had no idea what they were but you also grew raspberries and we've time member hours and hours of picking through through raspberries as a kid and he was a bit of a gardener himself so Can you tell me a little bit about the the nut trees that you're growing. Are you growing not trees. We we planted some black walnut yeah yeah they hedgerow in that we have some black walnut to their taller trees yeah a lot of the other ones that we are having more success tobacco laws take awhile they'll take eight to ten years having nuts and then you know thirty years ago the beautiful harvest artists that that's an act of faith food. I don't think I'll be around trees but that'll be our legacy for somebody. That's right yeah. We did the same thing on my dad's farm the you know we we planted trees knowing full well that we would never see them. I'm not even having a lot of success with Hazel Bert Hazell not yeah a a little nuts Christmas they had a great great Bush great shrub they make the full hedges or windbreak and we've been growing them and getting tons of nuts so say from from a Bush what what would be like an every terrorist from a from a Hazel Bird. Her Bush is at a Bush or tree it's somewhere in between the multiple stems. I mean you could be a single stemmed attorney but they're they're more like a bushy but they thought they could get You know twenty feet tall tall tall and yeah. I'd say you know they're just really maturing now and I think we'll probably get we can play a Bushel not well well. That's pretty good well. One of the things is that I try to calculate as as a family of four you know how many would I have to grow grow to you know to contribute to the protein you know over beans or anything else who know that we might grow and and might harvest for storage over long run yeah. Oh they're great alternative source of protein heart healthy oils. Also I think the limiting factor might be you know how much patience you have for tracking the individual something something very mindful thing. Sit there and crack not yeah yeah well. I if you have patience to crack open a black walnut use excuse certainly patience to do Filbert crack my aunt that you gotta drive by you know right. You're right there. Are there are tools specifically called a hammer yeah well I. I'm fascinated by those and it's not really you call them. Hazel easel burt right yeah they're they're. Filbert and Hazel nut crop disease resistance to them absolutely great hazelnuts growing link also and the bigger they are not and pushes a more bigger so if I was going to do one it would be the Hazel Bertha. Yeah I would recommend in that guy yeah okay good John. Are You open to a phone call. We have a caller doug from Randolph calling in and with us what's up money curious to what happened to the Vermont Butter not population you. Do you remember being a kid to in the fall. That was a annual thing. Go pick up butternut yeah. There's there's a disease Peter my know more about this than I do but there's a disease that can you hear me okay okay because I'm getting all the the the other not canker that has recently introduced then to kill the older trees so and either the material ones that are producing allowing the not so we're not seeing as many material feel out of younger ones sprouting up trying and hopefully the more and more although there our our get some genetic variability and I had some resistance to the disease but for now the better not mature about it and that's in trouble. It's the long list of of nut trees that that have have you know we've lost the chestnut the butternut that of course and then of course we know about the the ash now is just about you know to go extinct here and the elm of course that struggles breeders are you know making new varieties usually across from either. Chinese or some other other continent and trying to breed chestnuts and ash and elm and certainly butter nuts that will survive over here. Thank you very much yeah. I I read a couple of places where the the theory is that the the the nut trees have a very big canopy and that they're more susceptible to pollution in the air and but I I don't know whether that's true or not still it's it's sad to see sad to lose those those great and majestic trees really like the butternut chestnut in the very back John I really I love this chapter the small things and chapter it's it's a paragraph and I don't there's one thing in there where it says the one of the speakers at a recent recent talk. We attended about surviving. The future said the next big thing is a bunch of small things small acts creating pocket pockets of persistence assistance or resilience to environmental and social degradation multiply by millions of people will fuel the revolution. We need heal the planet and ourselves we can affect effect change and I I just I love that vision because it has a very positive every single person counts you know oh every body can do something because a lot of times you listen to the news. You think oh my gosh. There's just you know there's nothing I can do and I've always contended twelve. You WanNa do something garden. It's a it's a big thing. It's much bigger than we give it. Give it credit for and anyway I I. I think it's really important that this Cook the have a hopeful message because we are I just bombarded with all these negative news and it's easy to get into this ecological depression or psychologists calling uncalled climate anxiety about climate change and there's a lot of you know instability in the world and more suffering and stuff so yeah we wanted to the book to be hopeful and empowering for people so we talk a lot about you know how to plant thing what the plant and how important the cumulative Humid Action Guy we're all in favor of people protesting and shutting down and going after the corporations nations but and you know but they got a lot of lawyers guns and money that's that's one tactic to go straight on you know. I don't want to make them inconsequential quite buying their crap your wallet you can actually do really a good positive things in the world like getting out and gardening growing your own food planting some trees that are. GonNa be you know getting more organic matter into your soil soil carbon and water in our cycles on the planet here. I'll try since really we think that for things to really change and we're gonNA need to kind of kind of transformative relationship with the Earth and all the web of inhabitants that we interact with I think everyone is connected and we've really come to that realization through our twenty seven years of working on the land and stewards of the land and observing and interacting and it's it's very empowering to try to be you know in favor of life we want to I mean I I I heard pharmacy and all I wake up in the morning and sometimes I'm thinking you know what what am I gonNA kill today and how we're GONNA kill it. Whether you gotta go out and kill weeds kills them interact via the diseases or things like that yeah yeah. I WANNA be purveyors of life. We're just trying to play this. Anything is possible and keep as many things going and any pesticides on our fines because we we think that are just like an ecological sledge hammer for small problem. We've we figured out ways of you know getting around and pest outbreaks do have occasional pests but maintaining equilibrium we can we sustain a little bit of damage and you know that's that's. GonNa keep are the official insects happy because they've got something to eat berthiaume. They've got something to eat. We don't even try to reimagined this term past co inhabitant of the former lawyer day day in line. Don't get too greedy and everybody's happy yeah yeah. Well put very very well put John. We have a call from Ted in Shelbourne do scratchy there but I know it and I'll ask ask a quick question. I just tried every phone I have an rookie and call go right ahead on a small Greek island for the last part of well. No no the first part of November and interested in some farming things one. I've wondered also for a locally is if you have thoughts about the Bio Char I've seen I'm very devoted and other saying maybe and maybe not and also because it's becoming more flooded with tourists and when I've been there in the past about finding ways of you know urine or human stuff for bio-gas or anything like that if any of those are going to get back to the radio now and those things that's well said the bioterror now I I saw in the in one place in the book the picture of the where you chop up the fresh yeah yeah yeah thanks and uh so do you guys use bioterr- at all. Is that any we don't we don't use our our practices but all I'm not in any way I think it makes a lot of sense in terms of anyway we can add carbon well. That's the that's the matrix of the life that kind of get all this boundary microbes and all the insects acts in the world and how much carbon matter you can get into your soil for using we call the mail which which which made from small branches have a really great carbon to nitrogen ratio because there's a lot of you know the Green Cam okay. You're a branch really Lignin in in the trunk fire okay. I'm a smaller branch. The ratio is better so we we a lot of that to get carbon into our cell. Bio Char- could be another way. I mean there's a lot of the event some research lately and it's kind of contradictory. Some people are finding those people finding no effect coninck. There's more to it than then we. We've been able to study so far that I know like the philosophy of it. It's a very light but a lot of Kolding so it can absorb moisture and you know that's that's a good thing until well it also has a lot of little nooks and crannies three-dimensional stuff for fungal my Celia and microbes and things more surface area for them to live on so I mean my God. I think that it's it's a good thing I I think you need need to think about how you're making it. If you just you know cooking down would on open air then you're a lot of feel too and you could be leaving other gases take off gases into the.

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