Listen: Joe Biden, Georgia, Senate discussed on 1947: The Meet the Press Podcast
"A._m. Sportstalk i'm helping me with this is is to just a quick depress. You you do a sports show in washington. I'm chuck todd and this is the chuck todd cast on today's show. We are forced in august to talk a lot about polls. Polls polls hold the d._n._c. and joe biden almost forcing us to did biden slip that much or is the race right where it's been the entire time and and donald trump stunned world leaders on the global stage at the g seven but does he even have the ability to stun voters anymore. The united states has trump fatigue but democrats have have the cure. I'm joined by n._b._c. Reporter shannon petty piece who's fresh off the g. seven trip and mike mentally our man on the biden campaign plus later. We'll be joined by guys see so he's chairman of priorities u._s._a. The superpac that will be primarily responsible for supporting the democratic presidential nominee but mike and shannon welcome for cardinals fans out there. A famous voice of the cardinals guy named mica shannon so yeah. I know you're you're. You're sort of a weird baseball. You would know those weird voices on that front but shannon as much as i want to talk about your jet line uh-huh coming in by the way podcasts are wonderful for jetlag. Always some of your best work comes out here. Unfiltered her face for podcast stop. Stop stop stop but here we are in late august and it the you know it's funny how now one of my favorite things to hear from from viewers and sometimes party activists. Why is everything so poll driven all the time and yet the democratic party had sort of made eight us be these poll-watchers because they were being used to decide who gets into the debates what we make of this process shannon. I mean you know they tom. Steyer dyer spent all this money and if i'm him right now i'm starting to wonder. I'm not in the debates because they arbitrarily decided if polls weren't can if somebody decided not to conduct a poll. We're not going to find out whether he actually earned the right to make it yeah. I think there probably will be some criticism looking back on how the democrats handled this big field hold debates in the polls and i don't know what the alternative way to do it as kind of a it's a messy situation. There's there's not much to do when you have that many candidates i suppose but when it comes to polls and trump world where i live they are. I think genuinely not taking them too seriously area sleep at this point. There is a sense that of course the president is paying attention to polls and of course he wants to know the horse race numbers they care more about than the democratic polls though is the president's approval and right track wrong track for the country right so they watched those but there's it's definitely a sense that everything will change after new hampshire so after iowa and new hampshire i should say so they'll see what goes into that and then they'll start getting concerned about the polls but joe biden is really concerned about the whole thing i they've done things recently that i thought were risky. One is put advertise. They're they're pulling. Success in television ads <hes> it. I only say this because you're hanging your hat on a bunch of off your polls that you hope conducted while by college students i mean i don't mean to be i mean i don't under- and what you leave yourself. Well what happens if you slip in the polls and the other is they were so emphatic on pushing back against one outlier poll in the monmouth poll turned out. It looks like it is an outlier. Monmouth is so but but to me it tells you wow they're really nervous. I is this campaign a house a car. They believe the minute. They lose their lead over trumpets over welcoming the ladder. I the biden campaign made a decision. After that first debate. Essentially the handcuffs were on their press team the rapid response his team. They were not doing much of that at all and the kamala harris attack in that first debate and the fall out was they didn't quite know how to respond to it but they also felt restrained from doing it by their boss boss. The vice president made it clear his team. We don't attack other democrats even when they attack me but they learned the lesson which is you can't let these attacks or negative storylines lines even go on responded to so now they've taken almost the opposite approach which is they overreact to everything they don't want a negative story line to take hold <hes> and if it's going to be out there they want to make sure their voices part of it and the other thing that you know jerry too hot or too cold anything especially if they have read the three bears right. They're they're trying. They're trying to you know continue to raise money especially from bigger donors you know who pays attention to polls their big donors and so the goal here in august was to press their two big advantages one is of course they're leading the polls the perception of electability that was why that was in their first. We thought joe biden was maybe gaffe. She was probably just clued in on the message in the talking points when she talked about that in new hampshire and the second is the relationship with obama and their advantage with black voters voters and that's why he's in south carolina today. He's doing around table just yesterday with african american reporters. They're trying to end of course last week. Was the anniversary of the obama pick. They did so messing around that as well so that's what they're trying to do at this point in the campaign look right before we came on the air. We got a little bit of breaking political news johnny isakson longtime republican senator from georgia who actually just won re election. I believe in sixteen <hes> has decided to resign early. He's been battling health problems for a few years now and is decided he can't can't he's. He's basically going to resign. At the end of this calendar year. This puts another competitive senate seat on the map for twenty twenty his seat normally up in twenty twenty two you but the way it would work as an the appointed senator <hes> by the governor would have to stand for election in november likely and then i finished the two year so georgia's senate races that are very competitive to this cycle another one in twenty two on that front never mind the governor's race but what it does do and i'm wondering if this is a good news story for joe biden shannon because the senate map for democrats this is. There's a lot of opportunities though they're not easy. I'm up to counting. I'm up to sixteen competitive races. Overall eleven republican can help seats were. I think they can hold a republican less than fifty five percent which puts it in the generally competitive column. That's arizona colorado maine those three or you're gonna be super competitive. Then you have north carolina to now in georgia kentucky mcconnell you never know kansas iowa montana and south carolina these are not shannon these are not blue states right so but with the right person at the top of the ticket democrats could have a mandate eight to govern under the right scenario here and two of those states you mentioned to me arizona and colorado in the trump team thinks will be a big fight. Those could be a big struggle particularly colorado. There's been a sense for a while that that one has gone blue but particularly i've been hearing about arizona lately so zone on as a presidential as it is against arizona right so put that one in there i mean it is. There's a lot of close ones. They could all flip one way. They could also the other the georgia race. I'll say one little bit of intel. I've gotten is i've gotten texts from a couple. People already suggesting that nick ayers former former vice president's chief of staff who was considered for the white house chief of staff and we had a i think it was around christmas can't even remember the exact time the big drama over over whether or not he was going to take over as the chief of staff suggestions that he will be appointed into that temporary seat boy wonder of georgia. I was just gonna say as you're setting. They get up like of course nick ayers. Gonna float nick ayers for the seat sure enough mike. I'm not saying you're sources neck okay nine sorry. I'm sorry we we those of us who have covered neck for decades. Now i can almost maybe more than one decade at at least a decade that is corey lewandowski and new hampshire nick ayers georgia i if this is the future of united states senators kindercares kindercares get rich on the nikkei wish someone would stop these rumors about nikki haley too because nikki haley for vice president rumors are just really. They're really they're killing. Don't you think that there's something tension there. <hes> was interesting. You talk about biden. In fact i was just say here. I look at this and i guarantee gears on colorado in maine are one type of swing state and it's okay. I think any democratic nominee. I mean we now know colorado. I think shannon quarter of their trump. That's that's up light blue estate now okay. I'm not saying we can't win statewide but they've to go. I don't think they can win statewide presidential year <hes> put it that way. I think it's a lot harder now. Arizona feels very purple in maine. It's susan collins right without her. I think it would be probably already be gone. It's all these other seats. It's north carolina. It's georgia in iowa yeah. Well probably in the next three on the board and it's not it's it does feel like you have to have a certain type of person at the top of the ticket that can carry those states well. We know that this is a senate class and we talk a lot about whether the senate is still representative of our country and the senate but we know that the senate class is capable of producing using a good democratic majority because it did this is the two thousand eight obama class that gave them almost filibuster proof majority now of course it was also the class that in two thousand fourteen got wiped out in in a mid term wave jeanne shaheen. I think is the only one left but to the biden point in two thousand eighteen the biden campaign what became the biden campaign made a point of showing in how he was in demand in places where other democrats were not in demand to do surrogate activity. He did something i think <hes> sixty nine events <hes> for two dozen candidates. It's throughout the midterm election. He went to kentucky he went to montana he went to north dakota and bernie sanders and elizabeth warren weren't invited as much and and he also said they weren't invited to any of those places but they were invited as much and he also talks about this on the trail that this is more than just the president <unk> presidential election we have to be able to govern and we need to have ideas like when he puts forward obamacare plus rather than medicare for all that the entire ticket can run on and."