Noam Chomsky, Amy Adams, Clayton discussed on Bad Science

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Yeah. Another snob. Can we please keep track here? Yeah. I read up on her and her training. She's very well trained and her work looks really interesting. She does let us stuff on ergotisms, which was the super nerdy phenomenon in language that I'm not gonna talk about. We'll just because. It's languages of the world differ in the way that they Mark subjects and objects. So the different grammatical roles. Okay. And linguists really loved to divide up languages, according to oh, you know, things like their grammatical differences there sound differences. So she works on really interesting stuff. And it's done a lot of comparative work. She also apparently has done fieldwork. And that is something that I like about this foam a lot because it four grounds actually working with speakers in this case the help to pods. All right. So you're you're there with them. She does come from a slightly different training than I do in that she is definitely aligning herself. At least in what I read with Chomsky in linguists. So with Noam Chomsky and his ideas about language are different than how I was trained. So more of a focus on what is it about us that we're born with that allows us to speak and the chumps. Skin sort of come down and more of a formalist view that we're all born with this innate ability, whereas folks, like me linguistic anthropologists sometimes characterized as like, oh, you guys are crazy hippies over there. You're not really being scientists as I mentioned before we're very concerned with the relationship between language and culture. So we think that language really can't happen or we can't understand it outside of understanding society. Got you. Okay. Vague created a logo Graham bible which included over a hundred different completely operative logo grams, seventy one of which were actually featured in the movie, so I wanted to just ask your view on that did that seem of cool legitimate. Was that interesting? Yeah, it was very interesting. And I always appreciate when a movie goes the extra mile, for instance, the revenue like I have a friend who worked on that movie is vocal coach, they really, you know, research the ereck era and the and caddo and went for it. And the same thing here. I mean, almost like Klingon or you know, you read about game of thrones. They did. Lot to I think create a rocky language and worked with linguists. So yeah, this is definitely the way some languages would work where you have a particular sound. I mean, sorry particular visual image for one concept. So yeah, that's how you would go about it. They were talking about a movie like you would have to know the entire thing first and then like right with your left hand and right hand at the same time. I I don't know about that was I think I missed opportunity to explain where they were trying to go there. How would you explain it? Oh my God. Well, like that part of this group right now. I don't know. I mean, one thing that I think instead of answering that I think the missed opportunity. Yeah. Divert is that they didn't get into. I understand why it can be quite complex, but the different ways that alphabets can work. So if you think about the English alphabet, we have I mean, even though it's kind of a crappy imperfect alphabet with things like silent L and all sorts of weird things. Generally, the ideas that you have one symbol for one sound. And then we get to combine them, but there are other ways of doing alphabet. So you can have like this alphabet where there's one concept for one image. You can also have an alphabet that is syllable based eat Cherokee is like that. So you can have a particular image or symbol that stands for a syllable in the language. And so that was a missed opportunity the whole going from both directions. At once I think was an attempt to tie in with the way time was depict. Clayton's? I I would not know how to okay. Yeah. That was. Yeah. Are there? Like oh. This is talking about missed opportunities with there was there other things in the film that you were like, oh this not cool with me. I mean, I didn't have that strong feeling the whole. So it's built around the film is built around the Sapir wharf hypothesis and poor Amy Adams. She was told to say, it's the sapper Warf hypothesis, which, you know, no disrespect like that's most of graduate school is you learn how to pronounce these folks names correctly..

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