Morrison, JIM, Danny Sugarman discussed on Rock N Roll Archaeology

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Those those external our responses coming to him You know And of course you know. Y- you know I think the Book Pa Proves the point in that Jerry Hopkins tried to get this sold? Nobody would sell it until they turned it into something more salacious palatable to You know a buying public And sure enough. It did the trick. Didn't it had sounded like reading the National Enquirer? I mean especially to the point of Danny sugarman memories. He was a teenager. Went along top. And right you know so like if I told you like dialogue that happened from when I was a teenager. How like how accurate would that be? So this is yeah. This is more like a like a magazine. Article Danny working with the doors when he was twelve right. That's crazy and so many scenes happened in the offices of the doors. And it's clearly. That's where he's interactive with Jim Novel up so I imagine you're twelve and Morrison is your body. What what the fuck would that be like? No even that's even weirder than reading this biography when you're twelve isn't being part of the biography twelve much much winner. Yes yeah yeah so so. There's some questions there but I mean I think to me. Ultimately it's a net positive for Jim in the doors because it it's a minute direction star. It did didn't it? Yeah there's that obviously gained the attention of Of Oliver Stone. Who went onto to make a film about? them which is also You know a debated On on there it's a good thing or bad thing But just like jam and and again I I I keep going back to to the fact that that Morrison himself was a complicated person He think of his upbringing with a rising star in the United States Navy At the time and You know The conservative family and those values and then the rejection of that To the point where where you are tried to eliminate the the history of your association with that family so I mean that tells you. I think all you need to know where to begin with WHO. This cat was and You know and he comes about right as this new you know Popular Art form is Beginning to really takeover the entertainment Airwaves and presents himself as the the dark Elvis Presley so I mean at all it all make sense to me. Yeah and as timing was so brilliant. I think it's very telling that that thing that triggered his cutting off communication with his parents was a letter. They wrote criticizing his concept of becoming a singer based on the fact that he never evinced any musical talent whatsoever which is totally reasonable thing for here to say but he was so confident what he was doing. It was just not going to Brooke and criticism as as a failed musician myself. I see. That's the difference between a successful musician. Failure is somebody who's like you know damn the torpedoes full speed ahead. I'm not going to hear any negativity. I'm going to associate with people that support my vision and I'm going to go for it and you know fuck you and the scene when his mom and younger brother do go to one of their concerts and he makes a point of screaming the lyrics of the end which other? I WanNa fuck you right in her face. I mean that had been completely shattering for her. I mean what would it awful thing to do and that she at that and that she even wanted to see him after that I mean she like tried to see him with his little brother and toe and he evaded her and he got everyone in the hotel and the concert. Venue to say. No gyms over there. No gyms over there and protect him from this horrible woman that had come to see him. You know in performance and withstood that that that situation happening to her and she still wanted to see her son and he never saw her again after that. Yeah it's very sad and to me it just reinforces you know this kind of success but commercially and critically comes at a high price and let me let me add that. A look I I. I don't think that a a singular letter Stating that Maybe you shouldn't go down this career path of would clause a quite a reaction. There had to have been a whole lot of shit behind that To get to this. Maybe maybe that was the straw that broke the camel's back but I think The The divorce to His immediate family was probably deeper than than than just A question his His ability as as a musician. The other thing that I might add is nate like like you I I i. I interviewed a lot of of rockstars and To your point Yeah I've heard over and over again that you know when you get right down to it. There was no plan B. I mean that's what you have to do to to be able to make their. There is only plan. A and plan. B. Is being homeless unless you make the Lenin school economics if you start off Not Yeah no plan. B. and also the Decides not brooking criticism and going with people that support. You is being able to withstand great discomfort and you know and not knowing what the future holds and not having any security that that stands out for me and all the biographies I've read is not carrying out security. Which is why I was never musician. You know let let's say let's say that that this this this is Anthony Mathu Anathema excuse me anathema to to the previous generation Who had had had to go through things like the Great Depression and World War Two You know and now here comes this generation of of of Americans who just given the middle finger to that whole world. That that those people you know quote unquote created. You know you know the the Corporate Society in the Organization Man and what have you You know they just said No. We don't have to live this way and I reject that And to the point of no I reject you as a person and knowing one. Cu anymore so there's a lot going on with with the the the interactions with his family that tells us a lot about who morrison was professor. I feel like we've covered the story of Jim. Morrison and the doors Christian Shelley. Thanks so much for coming on. You can listen to these guys on the Rock and Roll Librarian and rock and roll Archeology sorry for my pronunciation. They're both on the Pantheon podcast network which let it roll is proud to be a member of so thanks for coming on the show guys. Glad to have you. Yeah and thanks for having us on your show.

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