Ron Paul, California, Professor discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

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Gotten a huge advance for this. There was big demand for it and he just US couldn't believe that anybody gave a damn about any of the details of his life. He just could not believe that and his heart wasn't in it so he decided no no. Thanks so the money didn't matter it was. He just couldn't bring himself to people cared. And I know you're kind of the same way but Dogana Jeff diced there are some details that I want to wring out here people do care about. GimMe Your if you don't want to give me too long of a story. I WanNa know how somebody did. You grow up in California. Mostly yes okay. You start off in California. And somehow you have a successful career in things having to do with the financial world. And then somehow your Ron Paul Chief of staff and somewhere along the line you become an Ostra Libertarian. Teheran this is not the normal career path for most people so we are curious about. What were you reading? who were your influences? How did you because I didn't? I mean I I knew you existed. But we didn't have any mutual friends all of a sudden you just came out of nowhere. Who the heck were you? Yeah that's interesting. You know. I come from mostly mostly a background of libertarianism. I never went through a phase otherwise and that's mostly attributable to my father and to my older brother so when I was a kid in high school junior high. My Dad had some copies of books. Like the road to serfdom laying around My older brother Steve was getting a nineteen eighties. Eighties version of reason magazine in the mail. So I had some influences like that and of course I had some Ayn rand books that came into my possession which are very dog-eared which I still have today and my mom was probably not as thrilled about the randy and stuff because she thought it would make me an atheist or at least inclined me that way and I probably did go through a little bit of an obnoxious objective EST atheist phase to be frank in my late. Let's say late teens early twenties but for me you know. My Love was always literature. I thought I was going to be an English professor. Oh my God thank God we saved you from the. Yeah that's really what motivated me and I particularly liked Twentieth Century British Satire Evil in Wa. Graham Greene stuff like that. So my plan was hey. I'M GONNA go become a university professor and teach literature and and that sort of thing and at this point you know we start to get into the early nineteen nineties and I started to become aware that there was a PhD glut especially in California. And so I was going to school school in San Diego at the time and I started to rethink path and I said you know. It's the idea. Being a refresher appeals to me but I have to be realistic. And I don't WanNa be poor and and and Yada Yada Yada so at that point I thought about going to law school and ultimately did and from my perspective it sort of dovetailed with my personal interest because I was already a budding being libertarian. And felt that you know as a lawyer I might be able to help defend people against the state whether that would be criminal where I think you know rather regardless of whether the purses versus factually guilty of the acts the alleged to have committed. That doesn't mean the state has any moral ethical legal right to prosecute them and you know I ultimately went into tax simply because I felt like the tax payer was always in the right. There is no such thing as a just tax. There's no such thing as lying on your taxes or cheating cheating on your taxes that sort of thing and so in the early nineteen nineties I had a good friend Joe Becker who was a graduate who at student at UNLV because Murray Rothbart and Hans Hopper were teaching there at the time that was the reason he was there. So I was living in San Diego and he would occasionally say. Hey come on up to Las Vegas you gotTa see this guy. Marie Rothbart this professor so I said okay. I'll come up and drove up a few different times and Rothbart courses were always at night. He was very much a night owl so he taught his graduate sessions at night and afterwards they would all go to a little place not on the Strip by any stretch. This is way off strip. I think it was on Sahara Avenue. A little place called the stakeout which is a little sort of Gripe Video Poker Burger joint and I think it's still there actually and Murray would come and talk to his students and hop I think would sometimes come so I didn't really realize in those one or two times that I might have met rock that I did meet Rothbart. I didn't really realize what he was. I knew he was a libertarian. Professor and I had heard the term Austrian economics but I was still at that point very much in that sort of you know generic libertarian camp. I thought things like legalizing pot. That was still A. That was still edgy. Back then at taxpayer-funded stadiums are bullshit. You know that was. That was the sort of level. I love my libertarianism. And if you know we still find this today in other words. Libertarians who aren't rooted in economics generally bad libertarians and so thankfully thankfully. I found out through my friend Joe about the Austrian school inserted reading that heavier denser stuff which I'm now in retrospect glad to have have read but As far as Ron Goes Dr Paul just a few years earlier when he ran for president in one thousand nine eight I was just getting into undergraduate. I guess second you're an undergraduate. Maybe and so I went and saw him and back then of course you had to know that he was coming. He came to a little Ramada. OUGHTA in in Santa Ana California. Believe it's no longer Ramada in the building still there and so I think through my local Libertarian Group headed newsletter or something and I mean physical newsletter newsletter and I found out about him coming in I went and saw him. And that's where I met a couple people with whom I would stay in touch over the years. And so I have in a sense sense known ron for that long and then stayed in touch with him but My intention was was very much just to be a lawyer and I never imagined edge and I would be doing anything else with my life. I I got into mergers and acquisitions which is a very particular area of tax law. All the stuff dealing with buying and and selling companies which as you can imagine. There's a lot of complex tax structuring and a lot of cross-border international elements to this stuff. And so it gets very complex and as a result all especially from well a little bit in the nineties with Alan Greenspan and the early two thousands and then especially with Bernardi up until the crash really of two thousand seven The manet market really really went crazy in the United States will actually worldwide but especially in the United States and so oh it was a it was Lucrative at the time it was very easy to have a job you got a lot of calls from recruiters so it was good ee. No strictly from that perspective effective is a good place to be and So it was really just a call from a friend of mine who worked for Iran later on that sort of convinced me to end up working for him in his congressional office. And then through Ron Meeting Lou Rockwell not only coming to the institute so all of that is kind of a I guess a quick quick and dirty version of how I came to be sitting here where I am today in this room and Musa's institute. She's there's a lot of stuff that I could riff on but I WANNA on a pick out one in particular. You're kind of offhand remark. That people who are not rooted in economics tend to be bad libertarians. And here that I think some people in the audience here and that can't be right. You know economic system for everybody but there are very few exceptions to this rule. It turns out it's very strange range. I mean it and I think I have a theory as to why it is but when I think of people who are kind of squishy in their libertarianism. Or they're more interested in appearing appearing chic than they are and being really principled. Almost none of them are rooted in economics because economics. We were looking at private property and the Division of Labor and all these clear cut things that were if there's nothing mushy about it. There's nothing flighty about it. And it routes you in something. It's not that libertarianism is about alternative lifestyles I mean. Obviously Libertarianism says. You can't use violence against people because you disagree with their lifestyle. But that's not what fundamentally it is. It's fundamentally non-aggression peace and all these other things that I think flow naturally from economics but also I think about some of the people I have to deal with who are sniping keeping at me from the sidelines and almost none of them are in the Fed people. Almost none ever talk about the Fed. It's always the same three or four issues.

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