Bill Jones, SRO, Elizabeth Warren discussed on Glenn Beck
I'm not calling. I'm not gonna call this audience anymore tribe. And I am your chief. I am your chief. And once in a while, we'll have to call a Powell I'm just saying I can say it because I'm how many more times thirteen time thirteen times more native American then Elizabeth Warren. So there you go. You're all set. I'm all set. I am suddenly offended by cigar store. Indians. I don't know why. But I'm suddenly very offended by those. Did you always feel uneasy at that Seinfeld? Episode. I laughed about it. But last night things have changed things have changed for me. We have Bill Jones. He's the principal manatee school for the arts. I'm sorry to bring into this mess Bill. He has nothing to do with the previous conversation. Bill jones. Welcome. Oh, thank you. I appreciate you have me on you bet. So how're things. Ben explain what you've done with bringing veterans in. Well, it all started. When the legislature passed a Bill last year that requires an armed guard on every campus, either an SRO or the new guardian program or you go private security things like that. So they the question of should you have an armed guard on campus was kind of taken out of our hands. That's not even a conversation anymore because is required by law. So when you get to that point you start asking the question. Well, who do we want with with a gun on campus, and what's the purpose? And as you as you follow the conversation further along then you have to ask the question. Well, what kind of gun are they going to carry? So you know, we looked at. If you're going to have somebody who and and remember that the ultimate purpose for this individual it grows out of the park on the shooting and and breezy shootings. So they're here in the ultimate tragedy situation where you have an actor shooter, or you know, assailant who comes on campus, threatening faculty staff students and so forth. So if you look at that that far end of the spectrum the tip of the spear everybody likes to talk about it's a rare occurrence. And of course, it is rare until it happens, and then nobody cares about Satistics because it's very real the the folks at parkland whether this. Artistic mean, anything at all matter. How rare it is is very real. So when you look at that. One thing. I said was you know? Most police officers go through their career never firing their weapon in anger and most of them go through the career never actually having been shot at. So if if we actually had an incident here, I I made the comment one day that I I would really rather not have that be the first time that your guard had been shot at. Because I've never been in the military. Never miss it. But I have talked to an awful lot of people who have. And I know that I've counseled some of those folks. And I know this is a very life changing experience, you kind of figure out who you are how you're gonna respond. Oh, it's just something. And I'm thinking, you know, in the heat of the moment. I I really don't wanna have a situation where I have someone who has to stop for a minute and think about this or hesitate, and I don't wanna get into the park land who has detained and so forth. But I think that's a very real concern. We have a group of individuals, and this is where we came to who are trained. They're they're called combat veterans. Many of them have been through this many of them have come out the other side better than they were before some of them have difficulty. We all know that. But we looked at it and said, well, you know, if if we made that a criteria for hiring. And then of course, we're going to have people go through psychological evaluations Vegas through all kinds of testing. So that's the first step in this journey is having people. Ooh, I understand that in the event of a of a tragedy like this. They have an idea of what what happens, and and how they're going to respond or every situation is different. But at least they've been through it, and they know that it's survival. They know there's a mission that has to be completed, and they know that it's their job to go ahead. And do that just like it was in the military Bill. I have to tell you as somebody who has to have security. I just hired a new security agent, and they go through all kinds of testing and everything else before they're even coming to to interview with me. And I had just really good choices in front of me one guy who made it to the final selection had had lots of military experience. But no actual combat experience. And I said to him. How do I know that you when the when the gunfire sounds that you're you're going to run in or you're going to do your job? And he said, well, I'm I'm confident of I'm confident that and he made a good case. And he was a really good guy. However, I didn't have anything to to show that that is what because I don't know what I would do if I'm if I'm being shot at you can say, well, I'll pull them. I know you don't know that combat veterans have been through it. And they you know, how they're going to react. And I commend you for for thinking that way if my kid was in your school. I would be I would breathe a lot a lot easier. Knowing that you're going for Tess. Tested qualified combat vets. That's that's who we're going with. And we're very comfortable wherever competent, and this is a long conversation with our our chief of police here who actually has come on our board now after all this discussion. And and and taking next step. You have to look at all these SRO's all these guardians of the training program and everything equips them with a with a nine millimeter handgun. And our campus is quite large. We have very long hallways. It's quite an expanse across the capture things like that ain't gonna work, and you know, I love to use the the analogy that if you're standing in front of our art gallery looking at cross the cafeteria, it's one hundred fifty one feet, and I know you're a shooter. And and next time you go to the range, try taking your nine millimeter one hundred and fifty feet. No. It's really hard. Yeah. Sam charge it. Yeah. And everybody I've ever talked to all the law enforcement. It's like they kind of chuckle about that. That's not. That's not fissile. No. My problem is that I will agree that the majority of school shooters, even though it is small the majority has come into handguns. However, the most egregious the most horrific life part one and some of the others they've come in with high-powered rifles, right and. And and my concern is for example, they're gonna come in with a level three body armor, which they're not supposed to have but you can buy pawnshops anymore. So as I look at that one hundred fifty feet if I'm standing there. My guardian next to me, and and for some incredible chance on the same were to get through that door reject the buzzer and everything get past. But if they were to get in, I have this horrible scenario in my mind that I look at the guardian say, hey, where are you run down there with your nine millimeter and take care of this for me? And. That'd be tough for me to ask someone that knowing that their probability of survival is is going to be pretty slim. So what are you arming them with that hundred and fifty foot shot, and I'm just using that because that's our distance. We know that more capable fifteen hundred fifty feet with a decent site on. It is is Kate. In fact, I've talked to my guardian, and you know, as an expert marksmen from the military, and who who goes out with range virtually every weekend to keep in shape is like you said you'd have to try eat up to try not not to make a shop. Like, yeah. Let's and that's my concern that why would you ask first of all if you're going to have someone to put their life on the line to guard, you why would you ask them to use tools that are not as affected as other tools and guns are tools in the situation? Bill hang on the second one minute. I gotta take a quick break. And I want to come back to you. So one minute and then we're back.