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The last time there was democratic debates. I spoke to this political analyst list any Walter and she said listen. You should just watch mayor Pete and it feels like it's turned out to be really prashant now like a month later yet. You know when you look back at the sum total of food aeges debate performances. It's almost like he. Sort of a distance chan stronger and in the last debate that we saw he sort of like came out of nowhere. It was almost like a pizza jr where he took things up a level and it was almost like a key sort of started his kick and really sort of started to draw attention to himself by contrasting with fellow. Candidates like Senator Elizabeth Warren on on Medicare for all and contrasting his youth with a former vice president Joe Biden so as we enter into. Tonight's debate it'll be really really fascinating to see which Mayor Pete shows up. Are we going to see a pugilist. Ep that we saw last time or given his rise in Iowa are we going to see can pivot to this sort of statesmanlike figure where he's sort of above the fray above the competition. I think both of those possibilities could Pinot. He's a little cocky too. I mean he he went on a TV show and basically said. I think this is a two way race between me and Elizabeth Warren at this point which is saying something given that there are two dozen people in this race at this point you know some people read his comments like that but having you know spent time with them and sort of becoming a student of his political career. I think I read it as more of almost consultant sort of stepping outside of himself self and stepping outside of the race and sort of analyzing where things were going a month or two out so certainly his competitors and and you know detractors saw this is something that was cocky and the net effect of it was yes somewhat huber spilled. Can we talk about how Pete Buddha judge got to this place this because looking back he seems to have had the strategy. That seems kind of brilliant. He hired a media expert. This woman Liz Smith and the idea in the early part of this year was just say no to no one he would show up on whatever podcast wanted him and basically we teach everyone how to pronounce his name and explain who he was. That's right and you know. An example of that is in January right after he launched his exploratory exploratory committee. He actually went on a local podcast here in Indianapolis called Pete the planner which is a personal financial. Planning podcast for people who want to save eight for retirement or are wondering how big their their mortgage should be this week on the show. We answer your money questions but better yet. No we don't I we ask the questions. This week of presidential candidate Pete. Buddha judge the mayor of south bend he joined and he called in and talked about student loan debt and how he approached his his personal finance. You know we I was able to refinance my house a few years after purchasing it to take advantage of lower interest rates but We've not been able able to do is do the same with the the debt. That's also very big part of our finances. Yes he would say no to no one. You know as we got closer to April all you had a town hall in Austin. CNN and sort of had this breakout moment where he criticized fellow. Hoosier Vice President Mike Pence in a way that it really elevated his platform speaking only for myself. I can tell you that if me being gay was a choice it was a choice that was made far far above. Oh my pay grade..