I've been teaching online at the same time that I'm teaching my kids in the class. So I have a special bond with all of my kids this year, like a bond that I'm probably never gonna have with another class. Just because of the circumstances. Yeah, roomies and zoom eases. They're sometimes called. That's great. I love that. Um, the students, you teacher too young to be vaccinated yet? So what's your reaction to that news? It makes me very conflicted as a teacher because I can be vaccinated. I am vaccinated and my kids don't have that choice right now. And so making masks. Optional is really hard pill to swallow. At this point in the school year, we've made it through, you know, 10 months of masks everything following CDC guidelines very strictly, and then you Now, all of the sudden, it's okay to take them off. And so it's very conflicting. What's been their reaction to the news because I know my daughter. You know, she's in second grade and boy, does she want to take that mask off? Yeah, I've got Mixed reaction in my classroom. I've got kids that are ready to take it off and be done with it. And having this news come two weeks before we can do it is actually kind of making it harder for those kids because they know that end is in sight. And then I've got kids that you know they live in multigenerational homes, and they're still worried about picking it up and transmitting it to their grand parents. And so as much as they want to take it off the in fifth grade there kind of thinking about the bigger picture. I mean, do you find it a little strange that this new policy is basically only for the last few final days left in the school year. And what was the thinking? Do you think behind doing it at that time? So the thinking from Spencer Cox is point of view was that it will allow the kids some closure to the school year that will all be able to see each other spaces and they can finally see you know my smile and reactions to things. I think it's very odd that we're doing it and the end of the school year, so we'll have three school days with the optional masks. And so that's another conflicting thing is that it hasn't been okay to take our masks off the whole year. And we've made it through the challenge. We've done it, and here we are just the last three days of school that suddenly it's going to be okay. So that's another kind of hard thing for the kids to understand of. Why suddenly it's okay. Something that you said at the beginning of this really struck me that this is you'll never have another relationship with your students because of everything you've been through, and I'm wondering what your message will be to them on that last day of class. My message is going to be that they have really good heads on their shoulders. And no matter what life throws no matter what the future holds, they're going to make the best choices because they have learned to really think beyond themselves this year, and that makes me very proud. Stephanie Gonzalez, fifth grade teacher from West Valley City, Utah. Thank you very much. And congratulations on finishing this school year. Yeah, my pleasure. Thank you so much. We're going to look now at the very different outcomes of two different journalists who breached their company's ethics policies. One is famous and powerful. CNN's Chris Cuomo reportedly advised his brother, governor of New York, Andrew Cuomo, on how to respond to allegations of sexual harassment. But CNN said the primetime host will not be punished. The other is not famous, more powerful. Emily Wilder, a recent hire at The Associated Press, who just graduated university was fired for her affiliation in college with pro Palestinian groups after right wing media and politicians unearthed old social media posts. So who is the media? Really? Four? That's the question that Sarah Jones explores in her essay for New York magazine. She's a writer there and she joins me now welcome. Hi. Thank you for having me. Let's recap these two stories and and start with Chris Cuomo. What was the reporting on that? What did he do? So. The Washington Post reported that behind the scenes, Chris Cuomo had taken part in certain strategy sessions to advise his brother, the governor of New York and how to deal with recent sexual harassment allegations on reportedly referred to the phrase cancel culture and discussing those allegations behind the scenes at the time. Um, Emily Wilder. What is her story? Emily Wilder is a recent Stanford University graduate who recently finished a stint at the Arizona Republic and started as a news associate of The Associated Press just a couple weeks ago. While she was in college. Emily was, as you noted, involved in some pro Palestinian causes and once referred to Jewish billionaire Sheldon Adelson as a naked mole rats worth noting, Of course, Emily herself is Jewish. Those social media posts were on Earth by the Stanford College Republicans and sort of spread from the Stanford College Republicans, too, right wing media from there and she was fired this week and you said Cuomo should be fired. Can you explain to me why It's true that Cuomo is it is a commentator is an opinion journalist. You could even say that what he does maybe straddles online with entertainment. But you know, I'm an opinion journalist myself, and I don't always get everything right. But I do believe that the standards ought to be rigorous as rigorous for opinion journalists as they are for any other sort of journalist, and I think Chris Cuomo just objectively failed to meet those standards. And he was also allowed almost nightly to be on CNN together in the early days of the pandemic with his brother that then governor and there's also been other reporting that Chris Cuomo seemed to have gotten special medical attention during the pandemic s O. I mean, there are a lot of potentially a lot of lines being crossed there. What do you think? It says more broadly, though, about the way journalism rules do and don't get enforced. I think it shows us that these rules these definitions of objectivity are often very poorly defined. They very wildly from outlet outlet and there doesn't seem to be a universal standard at all. They also seem to be poorly in forest, the very unevenly enforced as a matter of fact. One could argue, though, that Chris Cuomo is being transparent that he does have an opinion, and it's in favor of his brother, who he's related to We also have to think about corruption is well, these standards aren't just in place to protect impartiality. As far as opinions go, they're meant to make sure that somebody isn't using their platform to enrich or two popular is somebody else. Now you can make the argument, of course that is Governor of the state of New York. Andrew Cuomo's already very powerful, but his appearances on Chris Cuomo. His brother's show really did help make him more of a household name to the nation at large, and that's really good for Andrew Cuomo. I'm not convinced that's good for anybody else. That's journalist Sarah Jones from New York magazine. Thank you very much. Thank you. Mm hmm..