Dave I., Jerry Larry, Kerber David discussed on IMPACT: The Podcast
An amazing rapper. He's a fantastic improviser. Super Funny. But he still has his he. So earnestly says the most hyperbolic things about himself always say keep that I. Love that because how do you date someone like that? How do you rule with someone like that, and that's the show speaking of Dave's personality and experiences. I was curious how jeff could possibly comb through Dave's memory database and select goes in the show. Is there any boundary of what's to sacred and should be left strictly personal or is everything just fair game? So Dave and I started talking I just said Dump looks dump all your stories into a bucket. Let's see and and let's make smaller buckets. Let's make a season one, but you're not famous at all, and then because he has a lot of stories, the show trails is liked by like five or six years. So he has all these stories that are happening now. That's your way to famous like no one knows who you are in the beginning of. So that has to go to the side. And then he started to tell me things like while i. need to tell you about you know my penis and I said, he said, and he's told me about said that this is a secret like no one knows about this. Please don't tell anyone and I said, okay, except this is going to be the first scene of the series. He goes really and I go. Yeah. That's the very first thing. I want people to know. and. He did it and it's amazingly disarming and I think one of the things people love about the show like our touchstone was our north star was authenticity and he's beating so authentic and so vulnerable and same with data, and they're not hiding behind a character. They're playing versions of themselves. So they're just standing there going misses me. I. Think People Really responded to that. But that wasn't even your original question about what stories go in and what stores go out. The interesting thing was the original concept of the pilot was completely different. It was it was a moment that was super important. David was the biggest moment of his life. It was the moment that he hit San and sent out his first video and it went viral instantly, and he said the biggest moment of his life because it's the day he came, we always thought he could be. And that was the original concept to the pilot and started to talk to Fx they very wisely said. I Dunno origin stories are sort of boring. We know what's going to happen. and. And since you know what's going to happen and you know he's going to, he's going to be success. Everyone else just seems like a stick in the mud and. I started thinking. You know they're hundreds of right. So we moved to like four weeks later because four weeks after you've had a big viral video, you're just a guy who had a viral video for weeks ago. And you're, not legitimate you're not anything. So. It was just a much more interesting place to start. Thinking back to my conversation with Dave, I wanted to know from Jeff's perspective. What about this show has made it so successful and also has brought it to a much wider audience than just the original. Lil. dicky. Fans it. Really all comes back to the theme of the show and of Davis, a man authenticity. A lot of people whether they knew little dicky's music videos or whether they've never heard of little dicky were surprised at how much the show had to say. and. I think it is those moments that you just mentioned those moments just like like open chested vulnerability. That field. So Real I. Think people really responded to that stuff and I think we were able to do a mix of. Really, sincere and emotional stuff, and also really shocking extreme comedy stuff. But I, don't think the shocking extreme communist of would've worked with that underpinning of authenticity. AM and like, and this is what life is really like. The show David has. A. Has A fan base that's not limited at all now, two little Dickie fans, and I think because of because it's different than the videos and Dave to his credit didn't want to do a show that was just another one of his videos you wanted to do a show. It really talked about him and talked about these other issues. I mean. He's right this sort of nexus of all these complicated things. I mean, he's got, there's body image stuff. There's there's masculinity stuff. There's appropriation stuff. There's race I. Mean. He's a white rapper in a predominantly black field is all of these things that were so charged and he wanted to go right at them and I think. But we don't the important thing press was not to go right at them in a preachy way. It did none of these. Felt like a very special episode of you know they end the way to do that is to come at them in a very, very personal. And by doing something so personal, you actually talk about something very universal. Now, curb is actually the same thing. It's just comedy, right? So Larry is dealing with the little things that everybody like has to deal with and and he's dealing with his own way, and so for an audience for curb people either saying like they see Larry, do something they see a situation and they say either. That happened to me before man I. Wish I. Could I yelled at him like that. I wish I could have killed at that pig parker or they go. Done that I'm good barker I am. Jeff has a lot of experience working with creatives who are the center of their own show from Jerry Seinfeld. Larry. David and now Dave. Bird. So how does he build the trust needed to pull off these shows? I mean you build that trust by working with them every day and being right? I mean these shows like curb is curb is such a collaborative. Thing in every scene is alive rewrite. So if I'm directing and writing and like when writing, it's just let Aaron. I. And we've known each other for a long time. But that got built up over like sort of proving yourself as you know as Alec Berg and I were. Story Editors Seinfeld, and like Oh, we can use this script. That's a good story in. And just bothering him at how to do every little thing. The, comedy comedy is so collaborative that you need to be able to have someone next to like for me these. These are the most value added value added performance, Larry. Dave I. Mean. They just have all of this stuff to say and I've got a lot of stuff to say, and we're just sitting there like going at it and. The. Nice thing Larry. Who is so sure of what's. Good. Or bad like on his on his thermometer, he'll. He'll try anything that he's like, oh, he'll try this try that he's confident enough to try almost anything, and if it works, it's great and it's in. So it's just years of doing that. But they know also with the actors like especially when you're doing improv. They trust me. We're GONNA put in the editing room and only use the best parks. and. The Level of. Trust, for the cast and me for Kerber David. We're going to come up with something really funny today. Like here's an outline, the stories. Funny. You guys are funny I'm funny. We're GONNA. We're GonNa make something great I don't know what it's going to be quite yet. It's not going to be what I thought it was going to be, but it's going to be. Right, so would you say trust is kind of what you attribute to successful partnerships? Yeah, well, it's also having an aligned focus. So Jerry Larry taught us how to do everything, but they also taught us the most important thing which is they were worried about one thing. What's.