Facebook, Iran, Twitter discussed on PRI's The World
So tell us what you saw in the lead up to the midterms the Russians were very much involved in the midterms. Again, this year they've never really gone away. That's just a evolution of tactics. I would say so what we see is increasing promotion of. What we would call overt propaganda sites that are known to be attributed to Russian state interests, so artistes, but next of their media properties, some of their think tanks the stuff that many folks around the world would recognize as propaganda, but American audiences are not quite as a dept at recognizing it as such yet. The second thing that they do is the covert operations working to amplify existing stories. There would be new stories and highly partisan domestic press talking about for example, the cavenaugh hearings, and we would see these Russian accounts, he's Russian persona accounts, active amplifying, those messages amplifying those stories so it was a little bit different than twenty sixteen in that. They didn't do the hard work of creating this site and the Facebook page and the media brand around a particular type of activist group. They simply engaged by amplifying real material written by real Americans than appeal to the audiences that they wanted to go after we also heard about Iran launch. A coordinated disinformation campaign that was eventually spotted by Facebook. What did that look like that was a campaign that was targeting the American left primarily, and in this particular case Veron's reached out to the American left thinking that amplifying the messages of the American left amplifying, perhaps the chance of electoral success of the American left would benefit them. So this is sort of a find the people who are most ideologically aligned with you that are real amplify their message and hopefully influence the electorate so with Iranian pages. We saw them repurposing memes from sites like occupied Democrats did that surprise you. Because I mean, foreign policy isn't like a big draw during the midterms in that assumes that Iran thought, well, they'll be a lot of people on the left. Progressives who want to see this deal start up again? I mean that seems a little tone deaf. I think that there is a is a long game. So increasing your audience, increasing the prevalence of a point of view that benefits you over time is part of what we see here. So for. Example, the Russian operation in two thousand sixteen began in two thousand fourteen are the gatekeepers at Twitter and Facebook ramped up enough, you know, in their rigor and spotting the stuff, I think that they're doing much better. Yes. So it's not perfect. But one of the things that has been really important to me to to watch and twenty sixteen is the evolution of kind of Multistakeholder as I'm here. So we did see Facebook take down a collection of pages just last night with a tip off from law enforcement. We were told and that's fantastic. That's exactly the kind of thing. We wanna see we wanna see that cooperation we know that accounts that we have given to the platforms have come down. So that's the sort of thing that's the ideal state as someone who attracts disinformation. What are you going to be looking out for over the next two years? I think it's going to be groups. I've I felt this way for for years now actually because that's where like minded people tend to cluster. So I think that we're going to see less of the 2016 playbook of creating coal cloth media properties with sites and pages and Twitter accounts and much more. Infiltration groups, and when you say groups talking about different Facebook groups, or I'm talking about face Becker up specifically, I think that there's an opportunity to infiltrate these more closed communities to exert influence over communities that already do have some distribution and some audience Rene Directa researches online disinflation and propaganda for the company, new knowledge Rene. Thank you. Thank you. For nearly a decade the men in the limo dumped more than six stories of debris in a black Chicago neighborhood, and though the neighborhood fought back the deck was stacked against them. Politicians were paid off the legal system looked away. And the man in the limo was working for the FBI. I'm Robin Aamer. And this is the city a new podcast from USA today. Subscribe on apple podcasts or wherever you listen. Before we get back to.