"By the time these two county detective started looking into the strange case of Kerry fiber. All those jealousy fueled texts and emails threats arson carry some MACs with getting ready for high school graduation. He hasn't seen his mom in three years but always always the optimist. He decided to try one more time to reach her on facebook. I was at that point. It was just a last ditch effort just hoping something what happened. If this is really you please come back. I want you to be at my graduation when she didn't respond. How did that feel and I wasn't really surprised because like I said I knew it wasn't her maximum? Nancy suspected for months but all those digital rants since we're not actually from carry and they didn't know it yet but detectives. Jim Dody and Ryan Avis agreed with them but detectives already had proof. Liz was impersonating Kerry online for the also suspected something much darker remember another part of their investigation involved. This basic question was carried farber alive or dead. Her father died. She didn't go to the funeral Mr Son's birthday all these things didn't take Ryan very long at all to come to a dead end. where he he couldn't find anything to show the now shoes she's alive? Suddenly Carry Farber looked not like a villain but like the real victim and the woman who claim she was the victim list. Gallia look the prime suspect and carries disappearance. Because why else would you disguise yourself as. Carrie if you weren't responsible before why would you be in carries vehicle if you weren't responsible for all of that is so counterintuitive and so bizarre that you know it wouldn't be expected expected to believe such a thing. It was stunning really. Liz Apparently Impersonating Carrie for years sending thousands of texts and emails emails in her name but now they had a bigger question at a much. Bigger problem I guess. Part of the worry was if even even if we could prove that. It's Liz Central Steph out as Kerry well. That doesn't prove murder murder. Yes Sergeant Dodie. Corporal Avis believed that Liz kill carry out of jealousy impersonated Carey in order to win. Dave back then try to frame his ex partner amy for everything even going so far as to set our own house on fire killed the family pets and shoot herself in the leg. Pretty wild stuff but could they approve it. We did need something more so we still weren't quite sure how to get to that point then. Liz herself by accusing amy of shooting her gave then they're big idea. And that's when we introduced Jim to Lis- invest here donate working the sheriff's office little over a week after the shooting in the park. Liz arrived at Cheryl station wearing her work. Uniform told you looking into a missing persons case. He's pretty play on the phone. He told her there was a break. In the case Benson remains that have been located. Okay it was a ruse of course source. We're waiting on the lab results to make a positive I. D But initial indication that these remains are Kerry. Okay meanwhile Sir Detective Doty. He was hoping Liz could help. Establish a time line like. When was the last time Liz saw Kerry? Well that was easy. Easy said this one brief encounter when Liz went unannounced Dave's apartment back in two thousand twelve. I didn't know he was dating money. Out of time so She came out and I was going in and she's been smart to me. Call me and it wasn't a big deal. I didn't really care time. I just wanted to get my stuff in an eyelash home. That's the only time you've ever seen her in person. She told detective doty that it was Dave who blamed Kerry for all those harassing messages over the years but justice she had told detectives she now thought perhaps amy was it really the one behind it. All she was with them for twelve years and she still don't follow times so you think thinks she can a person that did some stuff to say as a another person who was being possessive of day. It would be her so I mean I wouldn't put it past her uh-huh detective doty pretended to agree. I'm thinking if she had to go in and shoot you okay. She can easily be bold enough to have done something to carry messages. Of course he said he'd need to prove out. We had messages from her. Hey I did this already did that. ah I usually start building that case we want to build a case against amy who want to get amy thrown in prison which we were hoping was music to her ears and apparently it was. This agreed to help with the investigation and she limped away and she became a little WTI for you. Yeah no telling what Liz might come up with next. We had to find evidence that would match what she's telling us with chilling clue. That might finally unlock this mystery. 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