Dr Google, Dr Jason Stall, Penn Leucopenia discussed on Let's Talk Pets


Welcome back cat lovers. Weird here continuing our conversation about vaccination with Dr Jason stall. So are there any other things you've talked a little bit about some sort of immediate side effects from vaccines, and then we've talked about vaccine associated sarcoma. Are there any other things that you think my listeners would like to know good bad ugly about bags nations today? I think one of the things that can be challenging with vaccines. Is there all created somewhat differently in that the diseases that were targeting are also different? So for instance, people that have cats may know that in general most people will vaccinate their cats for three key diseases with these are called core diseases. And so that's Pam the Cassini as we've talked about already herpes virus and Kalisa virus and the vaccine that works for Penn leucopenia isn't. Extremely great vaccine. It works very very well. And we've been able to document in the literature that this immunity likely lasts for a long period of time. Whereas for collegiate virus and herpes virus, the immunity just doesn't last as long, and it's a combination of things that's different target that we're going after a different type of virus. It's more challenging to get that immunity to to stay up there. So sometimes when we're seeing and having a conversation with our veternarian, there may be different recommendations for different types of vaccines. So in other words, the veterinarian may recommend getting one type of vaccine every several years and another type of axion more frequently depending on that cats risk. So another example of how it's important to have a communication with your veterinarian because vaccination is not a one size fits all opportunity. I don't think. Absolutely. And I and I would also say if you have concerns you have reservations, I think it needs to be an open dialogue. So you really need to talk to your vet. And certainly let them appreciate what your worries might be. They may not be founded or they may be founded. And so the only way to really explore that and come up with a solution that you're going to feel comfortable with and that you're gonna feel is going to give your animal. The best protection that you feel as procreate is to really have a very very open discussion about these risks of benefits. Do you have any statistics at hand or in your mind about how frequently these diseases that we vaccinate for appear in our populations have cats. Well, there are some good data that are actually beginning to come out. And so it's really challenging oftentimes figure out how frequently they occur because for instance, they're not generally reportable. Right. So we don't know veterinaries how often they occur unless there are specific studies that look into them. And so it depends a lot on the cat population. So so for some of these types of diseases, it's not unusual for five percent or even higher of cats that are out in an area can. Actually, be infected with these with these types of viruses. And so there's a group that is called cap. See and it see a P C, and you can go to that website. And they actually are starting to track feline leukemia and FIV virus status based on certain types of tests. And so that can be a way for those types of diseases to get a better feel for kind of what's happening. But I think the biggest important message here is although some of these viruses may not be incredibly common in our pet population. We certainly when we see them we definitely see them on these unvaccinated animals and the results of these diseases are far more devastating than any possible negative component of the vaccination in my opinion. And I think that you would agree with me. Absolutely. I remember when I was working in clinical medicine saw kitten that had been born wrench shortly after birth had been exposed to pan leucopenia. And so it causes an error, basically it attacks the Serb elm in the brain. And so this cat could not walk. Properly. It would fall over these are horrible horrible circumstances and situations that happen, and I'm sure every veterinarian has got their stories of what they've seen. So you know, it's really about. How can we do the best for the best number of animals? That's kind of heartbreaking if you think about, you know, a twenty five dollar vaccine could have completely changed the outcome for that cat. And I think that happens every day. So I am very very happy that you are with me today to talk about these things because I feel like people trust groomers and internet headlines in making decisions and really the best answer is communication with their veterinarian. Wouldn't you agree? Absolutely. I mean, I think, you know, Dr Google has a place, but we have to be a little bit cautious. Anybody can put information on the internet, and so going to reputable websites if you have questions bringing them up with your veterinarian, I think these are all really important ways of making sure that information, you get is valid and defendable. I have a t shirt that. Says I'm smarter than Dr Google. I love it. It's my favorite t shirt. But it's you know, it's a little bit tongue in cheek. But use the information that you find on the internet to start a conversation and ask do not hesitate to reach out to your veterinarian or retail to me. I'm.

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