President Trump, Dr Roger Klein, Yale School Of Medicine discussed on Nightside with Dan Rea


Inside with Dan, Right, W B z Boston's radio. Well, thank you. Madison Rogers Madison, Our newsroom duty tonight and Wow, What a day you talk about in October. Surprise. This is This is his big in October. Surprises I can remember in all the years that I've covered elections. My name is Dan Ray. I am the host of nightside Marrow shares your eyes back in the control room, setting up all the phone calls for you. And of course, I think all of you have watched the news at any moment today Know that there was one story tonight and that is the The announcement early today, actually early this morning that the president and Mrs Trump had both contracted Corona virus. Ah, a lot has happened and a lot hasn't happened during the day. The information coming out of the White House was fairly scarce. Ah, and the president did not tweet himself throughout the day, as I understand that I don't follow his tweets every day. But Apparently the That the tweeting was down on DH. Then it was announced late today that the president would be spending the next few days or several days. At Walter Reed Medical Center, raising all sorts of questions and all of a sudden the politics that has been so hot. In the last few days, a Supreme Court nomination the death of an associate justice of the U. S. Supreme Court debate controversy about the debate. Would they be future debates? Everything changed about one o'clock this morning. Quarter of one when the news broke, so to try to work through it and get a perspective, I have asked. I'm Dr Roger Klein. To Ah, join as tonight, and I'm delighted that Dr Klein is on the phone. Dr. Klein has been a guest on this program before. For those of you who might not remember. He is a a pathologist with advanced training in medical, microbiology and virology. He happens to be not only a graduate of the Yale School of Medicine, but he's also a graduate of Yale Law School, and there are not many people in this country who hold both. Medical to Grady's MDS and law degrees J. D. So, Dr Kline welcome back to night side. How are you, my friend? Good idea. Thanks for having me. Well, thank you for being available tonight. And I know that as a doctor, You can't diagnose things in advance, but I'm wondering if you could walk us through the day. What your thought. Wass when you heard that the president had contracted had tested positive for covert 19 as well as as well as his wife and, of course as the day of all of them. I'd love to know what you must have had some thoughts as a doctor that that probably I would be interested in hearing. Well, so I first found out about it. I get it about five today and I and I thought the report now you know, Of course, it's very concerning now. You know, looking at this objectively. The president's in good health. He's sort of overweight and my first instinct, Wass. You know, most people who get infected. Even older people don't have a serious illness and certainly don't his risk of Of dying from this is quite low. So that that that's the first thing that crossed my mind. And, you know, I just thought to myself you have a guy who Really, really getting more precautions than that than anybody else. Probably anywhere. He people around him. Can't get near him without being dusted. And still he contracted this virus which just speaks to how contagious it is. If you spend time in a long time in proximity, that somebody who has it And I, you know, it just reinforces the idea that which is something that I had Ah, and others. It's not not unique, but I You know, I just sort of look at this philosophically and kind of With the understanding that we're in the middle of an epidemic with a very contagious respiratory virus that most people who get it are you don't don't get Seriously ill. Many don't even know they have it and ah, and it's unlikely to Teo the epidemics unlikely to die out until enough people Get either infected or get developed some immunity through a vaccine so that we reach a level in the population that that the epidemic sort of burns out. Yeah, That's the concept I believe is called Herd immunity, Correct. Him. You could call it herd immunity, population immunity. I think that the butt but I think it's it's generally accepted. Although many people won't won't speak to it that It isn't going to go away until until sufficient numbers of people. Are either get infected or get immune through vaccination. And I've heard that that numbers anywhere from 60 to 70%. And at this point, my understanding and maybe they don't know what percentage of the population has actually been. Impacted because a lot of people have had covert as I understand that showed no symptoms and had no reason to get tested. And so We already could have put up I'm told in New York, for example, they're saying it could be as high as 25% of the population in New York City could already have the the end of bodies that would indicate that they had Had the infection, some points that do you understand? Yes. So I think it's it's not solely antibodies, which which can fade it. It's really over. So anybody there? What? What? What I would call a surrogate for a larger response. They Hey, the amount system's complicated. You have what are called B cells that produce antibodies of T cells that are that directly can attack cells infected by the virus. And what what really happened to the complex interplay of Of a range of of what our really defensive Ah, and so I think I know anybody there one part of it, but it's uh but but and I are kind of reflective. Of whether or not AH person's been infected to the extent that they don't dropped below, a level of, um Of detection. But then the immunity stays. So I guess that would be the comment that I would say if you get there, you get this lasting immunity and memory cells and when you get exposed to Sit. What's called the managing to the protein that that's produced by the heresy, you rev up the antibodies in the response and everything else So, yeah, I mean, I think I think you're right. You know that the most infections are Our most people who get infected. Probably don't know they have it and the number of infections relative to cases anything to study and, you know, a few months ago and based on their surveillance..

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