Vice President, Dr Brian Weeden, Johnson Space Center discussed on Trending Today USA
This John Batchelor show hotel, Mars and soda. David livingston. Dr space, the space show is here with me as my co pilot and the debate is the space force. I go to the vice president's words at NASA's Johnson Space center in Houston. Last month in August of twenty eighteen the need is real said the vice president as we speak. The department of defense is moving forward with initial steps to strengthen American security in space, and we will continue to work with both parties in congress to provide the necessary authorities and funding to stand up a new branch of armed forces. The vice president also speaks of putting a US crew presumably space for us on the lunar orbital platform gateway commonly called gateway we're joined now in a debate about the space force and what direction it can take with Dr Brian Weeden. He's the director of program planning for secure world foundation. He spent decades debating space policy and operations Brian joins us from Hawaii. David Livingston, Dr space joins us from California. So I here on the east coast asked the first question, Brian a very good evening to you the vice president's reference to a. New force. A new stand up force in the Pentagon to your understanding is this welcomed by the Pentagon, it self is this something that makes the air force and the navy and the army happy good evening to you. Brian. Good evening to you. And thank you for inviting me to participate. I would say in general. Most of the Entercom bureaucracy is against the idea of a separate service to do space. But most probably think there does need to be some degree of change. How things are currently organized. Fair enough. So a lemming understand this. They're not certain space forces needed. But there needs to be a lot of there needs to be thinking about what to do with this new frontier, especially because militarization is upon us. Is that how they're thinking of this Bri? I think that that that's a good summation of it. You know, we've been having a debate for pretty much the last two years ever since let's say the commission report in gemstones one about how to. Efficiently organize national security space activities and by NASCAR space. I mean, the military and the intelligence activities that go on in space. Right now, those are primarily done by the air force and the National Reconnaissance office respectively. So the question is is that the right structure going forward? A space force defined as a completely separate department slash service to do space is one specific answer to that reorganization question. David. Hi, brian. So depending on who makes policy I think that's probably more important than what uniform they may wear because I suspect the policy is made it higher levels than just the the new military force to space sports, so changing how you make the policy and how it's about who does it seems more fundamental than what uniform is going to be worn carrying out that policy. Am I going wrong someplace or is that a good perspective? I think that that's a very important point. So from the perspective of space policy, sort of the overarching document top is what we do as the national space policy and just about every presidential administration. Since Eisenhower has issued one of those and those policies are usually produced by the national Security Council or an equivalent White House level interagency body, and they they involve bringing together representatives from State Department and defense department and Commerce Department and treasury and all the other agencies and departments that have say, and they spend know they spend several months or more kind of discussing what goes in the policy, and then at the end it's coordinated and signed out by the president the last official national space policy of US government. It was produced on Obama administration in two thousand ten when the Trump administration came in. They produced a space policy directive one which changed part of that was going to kind of the goals for human spaceflight. But in general has since left the overall stays policy intact now beneath that are bunch of others policies that are specific topics. So the administration has produced a new national space strategy, which is sort of not really a strategy. It's more like a policy put it focuses more on the security aspects of space policy, and there they largely has kept the same broad themes that we've seen since Eisenhower with some tweaks to the to the to the dressing and the rhetoric around it. But I think you're right in and that that was a very important process because that is how we get all the different departments and agencies and the government they use space sort of on the same page for our approach is going to be. Peace peace to this though is that one of the big unanswered questions is what is the mission of the space force going to be and that is a very important policy. Question has not yet an answer earlier this year, you provided a a glimpse of what that policy could be when you and your colleagues issue global counter space capabilities and open source assessment. This is April of two thousand eighteen months before the vice president's spoke, and so we can presume that they were familiar with this in the building. What is and your on you have an executive summary here that is very trenchant. What is from this recommendation? You call it's called counter space that you want the Pentagon had debate. Brian. What are the points here that the Pentagon is likely to have to solve before they can launch? Our reports was.