Norma Rogers, Clinton, Paula Jones discussed on Skullduggery



And so she agreed to do this to sign this affidavit, just so it would go away. Now in a court of law, of course, that would have been enormously damaging for her, but in the narrative, not just immediate narrative, but an investigative narrative, it became less so. Because of the people she had told one of there was one woman who was with her Norma Rogers, and I actually went to her house to and ten o'clock one night and knocked on the door. And I said, look, I see, I went to see Juanita. She gave me your name. I'm really sorry to bother you. Can you confirm this and she said off the record? Yes, I walked into the hotel on the few minutes later. Her lip was all flow on and bloody. She told me what had happened. She was horrified and those things become very credible when you're listening to these stories. Now, of course, what finally talked to come forward is she got approached by Ken Starr's investigators and prosecutors and they were looking into whether Clinton people had pressured her to remain silent. And she. She had already, of course denied filed the sign, the affidavit, denying that this had taken place in the Paula Jones harassment suit. But then when it's the FBI and it's federal prosecutors and they gave her immunity for perjury for having filed the false affidavit. And then she tells her story, you know, what's interesting is the Clinton, the star people could never show that Clinton as you say, had pressured or remain silent. And so therefore they never used it as part of the impeachment case against against Clinton, which was about obstruction of Justice in the in the in the Paula Jones harassment suit, which is, you know, a lot of people thought though that if this story had come out, it would have. Made a big impact in the in. The debate over controversial would have really on. And what's interesting about what you are just are related is that I don't believe that they put pressure on her and not only did they not likely put pressure on her. She became offended that people thought they put pressure on her and that she was caving to them and that in fact worth against the Clinton people because when you know part of the part of her narrative was that it was getting, you know, people were criticizing her and saying, they bought her off, you know, she caved under their pressure and that had not happened. And then she also said, what so many of these women say, which is that the if the story was out there and it was, and it was people were getting very close to reporting it. She wanted to be the one to share the story. Now, there's an interesting take on the whole media piece of it. NBC never took. Never was going to run it. I mean, they sat on it for months and months, and then a Wall Street Journal, editorial writer, Dorothy Rabinowitz got onto it very conservative. She got on a plane and went to van Buren, Arkansas and spoke with her, and then did a very long poignant column on it for the Wall Street Journal before any any news people did. And that's what prompted us to. We had it all..

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