Charles Hardin Holly, Gary Moore, Holly Fan discussed on Coast to Coast AM with George Noory
To coast to coast. Let me tell you about Gary Moore gear is the author of the critically acclaimed book playing with the enemy winner of the two thousand six military writer's society of America book of the euro award plane with the enemy is currently optioned as a major motion picture, Gary is a contributing author for chicken soup for the father and son soul and the self syndicated columnist with a degree in music education from vendor cook, Gary has performed professionally music of all genres and taught students of all ages and groups and will often his percussive performance skills. Into the subject matter at hand. Gary welcome to the program and welcome back. I should say George. Thank you so much. It's it's a pleasure to be on. And and it's great beyond with you. I've been a fan I had a chance to interview Kenny aronoff about a year ago, the great drummer and God, he's he's exciting. He wrote a book and. He's one of a kind one of a kind you must know all kinds of musicians to I do. I do I've it's been a real pleasure. Most of my life. I've been able to be around some of the some of the great ones out to, you know, for me to greatest drummer ever was buddy. Rich. Yeah. Yeah. Every time I hear that song American pie. Yeah. I think of this tragedy. This incredible story. How did you get interested in it? You know, I was never buddy Holly fan. It's just the strangest thing the way it was drawn into this. My my mother-in-law who is just that was just the kindest most wonderful woman you'd ever meet out. Lived in Iowa grew up in Waterloo. She for her seventy fifth birthday said she wanted to go to the reenactment of the winter dance party. Well, I thought the winter dance party knowing her age must've been ballroom dancing. Thought I should take some dance lessons about later found off found out that she was just a rabbit buddy Holly fan, and I didn't know it. And so we we went to the reenactments. There's a a performer buddy John Mueller who travels with the show he owns the right now to winter dance party. And you know, I sat through the. The evening, and it was he was great music, and you know, wonderfully performed. The big Bopper was performed by the big Bopper, real life, son. And it was great and emotional than performance. Did Ritchie Valens was outstanding and John Muir models, buddy. Holly with a great, but nothing really tripped my trigger excited until the very end of the show John announced that he was about to sing a song called. Hey, buddy. That he had written. My first thought was you know, you're gonna ruin a beautiful night and interject something written. And the song was so haunting captivating. I when it ended I wife looked over at me. And she thought here running down my face. She said what happened was wrong? I said, I don't know. And from that moment on I was just almost on an obsession to learn more about buddy, Holly, learn more about and I determined that. I wasn't to write about the crash. I thought there's enough written about that. I just want to write about, you know, who buddy Holly was trying to find stories that people had written about. But I ended up speaking to barbed wire who was the wife of Jerry Maguire the man who owned the chargers. And. One sentence that she said to me drew me to the crash and in my knowledge of it. I gotta tell you. It was. An incredible story. I was only nine when this thing happened. So I was way too young to really understand it. But later on. I began to realize, you know, this was a huge story. And I've seen pictures of the plane. It is so mangled. Yes. It's it's a wonder they all died because there's there's nothing left of this plane in the big Bopper was he the one who is like cost thirty feet away from everybody else. Yeah. Actually forty feet. He was forty feet ahead of the plane. And and and very scantily dressed most of his clothes had been removed, which seems shocking. He would beep so far away and be undressed, but crash investigators will tell you that it's not unusual, and I actually work with a crash investigator from the NTSB is we kind of recreated the crash, and he said that that's not surprising at all. Didn't they also find a handgun somewhere? They did. They did they didn't find the handgun until the spring. It's not snowing when when the crash occurred, it's not throughout the night. So as investigators arrived the plane the area was snow covered. And when they did the crash cleanup. They didn't get hall of debris. Well farmer by the last name of jewel with pine the field in the spring. So a handgun. So he got out of it got out of the tractor picked up the gun looked at it. And for whatever reason did the dumbest thing do he pointed up here pull the trigger and we're off and so he. Evidence. Yeah. And so he thought well, okay. I'll take this to the to the sheriff the next day. And he did the sheriff looked at it. And they found out in the serial number that it was registered Charles Hardin Holly, which is buddies real name. And that and he recorded in the notes that he'd been one shellfire. Beyond what he fired. No, just one just one just one. But he did not make a note, it was fired by the farmer, and so a few years later, the newspapers got a hold of made it sound like something happened in the plane, something well, not only that Africa for claimed that when he was taking pictures of the crash he found a bullet hole in the the back of the pilot's seat, and it, and it just became almost standard rock and roll Wisma time that buddy had shot the pilot. Are you convinced at this point Gary that what happened was pilot's error? I am convinced its pilots air. Yes. It's I I I'm a pilot. And I was also a I spent six years of my life is a charter operator. And so a lot of experience with pilots lot experience in airplanes. And it is. So crystal clear, really what happened..