Diane Sawyer, President Trump, Barbara Walters discussed on Skimm'd from The Couch
Blower. What is it like to be criticized by the president publicly? You know because I covered president trump before he's done it to me just. In Person It's interesting. How much he closely follows everything that said about him, so I think that's part of his operating mode to criticize. Publicly, he pushes back very very strongly I. It doesn't bother me at all and I. Don't respond to it because the facts speak for themselves, and I'm from the School of journalism where you keep your nose to the Grindstone, and the story speaks for itself, and the journalism speaks for itself, and I'm not in the business of engaging with him I'm. That's not my role. My role is to report back and ask questions and make sure that people feel like they trust the product and. You know when I took this job. As anger. The CBS evening news I went back to look at a lot of what Walter Cronkite said, and one of the things he said is journalism what we need to make democracy work. Another way to say that as an informed electorate is what we need to make democracy work. And the electric has to trust the journalists who deliver that news and so I do take that responsibility very seriously i. do believe that journalism is in some ways of public service I think we're almost in a public health service role right now in covert nineteen and so i. don't engage you know when we get attacked. You know we. We let the facts speak for themselves. The News business is notoriously competitive. As we talk about in your intro, there have been very few women who have been able to host their own evening. News show who've gotten as far as you've got an an obviously has paved the way for people like degnan. I to look up to and I'm very curious. How you navigated such a competitive environment when you are coming up and at the same time built a support network like everybody needs somebody to go to to vent somebody to go to to fall apart to. What did that look like for you? You know I think it's a really important question and I think in many ways the sisterhood just get stronger when I got the job of the CBS. Evening News Barbara Walters sent me a lovely note. Diane Sawyer sent me a lovely note. Katie, couric and I are very good friends and you know she watches every night. In like a week ago, I winked at the end of the broad s that she said. Were you waking at me like I'm impressed Katie that you saved to the very end of the right, so I think I love that you know there's a deep appreciation for that Gail called me yesterday morning in Saint Paul my Gosh, the right interview, it was so good on sixty minutes and I you know we were just to kill I gotta go. I gotta work out. She was like what so I think. Sisterhood is strong I think women have a deep appreciation of what one another has gone through and so I, appreciate that cheerleading. I? The I've never felt like. I wasn't supported. I think the hardest thing is noticing how women are judged differently, and I do I. Hesitate to bring attention to it but I. do think it's important to talk about because I. think that women are judged quite differently. For some reason it is insatiable for the tabloid press to suggest that there is some fight between women you know I admit. I I believed it when they used to write about Barbara Walters and Diane Sawyer Oh. They must not like each other you know or what's been written about me. Some really petty awful stuff. And you know I don't the only thing I can think about is for some reason that is, it sells papers, but I think we have to make sure that as men and women that we. Read these things with a critical eye and realize they're meant to sell papers or term pages, and they may not be true, and the reason that's important is because. I believe that women don't want to run for office or don't want to be CEO's or being a C. Suite, because they are afraid of being criticized, you know I mean there's also a strong correlation between the rise of social media and less women, running for president of their student body class, even in high school and in college, because they are concerned about the criticism, because it can be painful, and so we have to get over that and have kind of that Rhinoceros skin that Eleanor Roosevelt talked about. I think fats. What you just said makes a lot of sense. Also hearing, you say it in the position that year and I'm like Yeah I. I get it, you know. I'm just not gonna read. I'm not going to go on twitter and read the stuff that people say about us in. Get upset, but it's hard, and it's hard to develop that I also think in some ways. We had an advantage where when you grow up in news, you're kind of tossed into this world, and it helps you develop that scan, or you're not going to work in the industry for very long looking at you now. It seems like just such a given that you have that confidence. But where does that come from? How did you develop it where you always like that kind of leading the criticism Roloff No I mean certainly criticism still stings no doubt I think confidence comes from a strong support system. You know my mother has always said. Make sure you build strong support system around you, so the simplest explanation would be like your friends. You Know I. Mean You Judge Your friends when you're feeling down or something's gone wrong, so we do that in a personal setting, we need to do it in a professional setting and build a strong network of people around you who support you. And, so you know I have a team I. Don't respond to that or you know really highlight all the positive stuff or say this is what should focus on today, and I think that helps build confidence, but the most the really the most important thing that helps me build offense is the quality of my work. You know in the quality of the interviews that we do and that people trust. Me Entrust CBS News. What's your most favorite interview that you've done? You know it's hard to pinpoint one. But I would say that Malala Yousafzai. Remember after nine eleven well first of all I remember Diane Sawyer, going to ASEAN before nine eleven and reading about women who wear burqas and thinking. I, read about it, and she did a special on in thinking cut. This is something I you nothing about how do I not know anything about this? And then nine eleven happened of course, and then I read about how many women in Pakistan and Afghanistan or literate much women men to in so Malala became even before she won the Nobel Prize became, but certainly after she was nearly assassinated, she became for me. Someone who was a symbol of how the world needs to change that. Empower girl you change. The world is the simple way that it has been putting energy educated girl. You change the world and you know for a sixteen year old. She had the most incredible presence and confidence and sense of herself and I thought. How does have someone have that at such a young age? And really. Spend your life promoting values. You know because then that's where that confidence came from I. Think with her was a value that girls should be educated like that makes you stand tall. Yes, girls should be educated should be treated equally so I think that is the most meaningful I look at her as someone into, said Gosh so glad I met her at an early age sixteen and I hope I get to know her in thirty years and I hope that someday she becomes. You know this historical figure she already, but I mean someone who can actually change the world, so maybe that is the other person, too. I just love Serena. Williams who we interviewed you know when CVS USTA air, the US Open the open members. Winners used to come on the next morning. And of course singer.