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"Just on their guaranteed contract to jump to that platform on this thing. That doesn't take into account sponsorships subs or donation us. Say say. Obviously the amount of money he got guaranteed from mixer was enough to just completely erase any worry of viewership drop because he obviously knew digital's I wanted to do it. He saw himself friends so he obscene the the paycheck they cut him was obviously. I don't give a shit if I lose ninety five percent ninety nine percent of your ship I am set for life. I mean that's his law a lot of money but a lot of money. Yeah he set for a long damn time so he always Louise. Yeah you ship. Dropping wasn't gonNA phase him because he got that much money yeah and he he set for a long longtime and it forced twitches hand to to kind of shift to this model so in three to five years whenever as exclusively contract with mixers up he he could come back to twitch say. He's still money from twitter if he's still kicking claim as well as he does now he can just make that same amount again from Zoa offer to them and we kinda talked about how this shift is probably was inevitable. Almost I mean you look at these these streamers and yet I mean they're making a ton of money on subs and donations. But the idea really is you know twitches getting a ton of money as well from them basically and they're not so and so yeah and the platforms not giving the streamers any money to keep them that you know what I mean like. They could easily bring their their content elsewhere granted as shown Ninja and shroud. They're going to take a hit in their viewership. which sucks for sure? But at the same time you know people who really loved them are going to jump with them as well and so you know twitches kind of realizing that and that sort of force their hand to kind of move to this more sports sports like model where streamers are getting signed to contracts big. Big Streamers are getting signed to long on longer term contracts with guaranteed money kind kind of on a yearly basis to keep their talents on that platform. And I mean I think that's great because you know we did talk a couple episodes ago how twitch you know you can kind of see how twitch almost sees these people as as replaceable at any given time so someone falls off or someone switches will just plug someone else in will promote the shit out of that person. They'll hit the level at the other person. Did when they left and we we won't really hit it much speed bump and I think they've kind of realizing that that might not be the best method. I mean it's probably possible and it's probably true that they could do it that way way. I just think that they're realizing company. And you know the optics of the fans and stuff like that. I think they're realizing that it's probably not the best way to go about doing their business so they should should lock up. These streamers show that they appreciate them keep them on the platform give them the guaranteed money that they deserve because they they are providing very unique and very niche talents. That not a lot of people have on the planet you know. A lot of people like to call gamers gaming is what it is but you know. These gamers have talents. It's an half skills. Check them. Yeah do set them apart from people. Yeah exactly yeah. I think you mean if he wants his contract's up now he could easy. Just come back in three to five years. Maybe no half say half the money he got from mixer just 'cause he'll be a little bit older somebody not as household name but he gets half the money but then people say oh trust back on twitch gets half my he gets you know all like fifty percent boost in viewership so that comes more. Sounds Ordonio so again. He's still making playing bank but also say real quick stream. I think the most extreme game he did in November when these numbers are from he stream mostly from Kharkov which isn't yeah viewer anywhere on mixed over twitch hardly watch any because I'm so confusing us. Oh so it's so real. It's very hard core. Fan Base. Yes that's a big proponent of why his number two job because he's playing again it's not really watch by lead but people the other thing. The other thing that I love about trout is he's given. He wants to play what he wants to play. He's not going to like jump in and play the game in play. Okay what are the cause. He could easily point four nine. He could be so good at fortnight. Could be raking it in. But you know he doesn't I I'm guessing obviously don't know him. I would gas based on. How little for my he has played? He doesn't really like the game so that's why he doesn't play it so I went to see him stick to his guns play what he loves to play and play what he loves the play regardless of whether or not there's twenty thousand viewers or ten thousand hours you know and I think that's cool and I think that the industry needs more of that to an extent because I think there's a lot of strange out there that just play the hot gains because they know it's going to get them views and if if it's a hard game popular exact to which and if it's like you love the Game Eh. Hakim then fine. Play it but you don't really like the game in years playing because it's hot. You're just kind of a sell out kind of forcing this game to still live off. Just because you know people are watching it so I thought that was interesting. No I mean like I said I think they were probably aware that it would happen. Shroud out and Tim Shrouding enjoy definitely knew what he was getting involved with when he yeah and then for actually come out and be the case. I don't think anyone's really we surprised about it now. but you know it's shocking numbers also airbeds big numbers yes or some. Big numbers predicted buffy by most people. Oh Yeah so yeah I thought it was interesting but four nine had another event. Recently we talk talking about four nine these are the fortnight star wars event which was pretty cool. I mean I mean they did it again. You know they had another great event Tana viewership for the event I mean it does try indicated you try to always breaks. These events are cool. Good God you should know what's going to happen by now unveil people in consigning ten minutes I signed in I was signed in as inclusive event. Like sign me out not shot back in. It's like okay get in service full or this or that and I was. I wasn't even get in watch it but after a long time of nothing happening even why was in there as wicked frigging laggy and jagged e and messed up so it's Nice but man the done this so many times it Kinda have this under control but they don't. This time can get in hardly gut in the last time. I tried to do one. Same same thing happened in my account which I don't understand because they're so full account which like out of the out of even in even in the launcher signing to my shit launcher class. Last event I tried to watch. I couldn't get in because I can log in either pause for this one but it. I mean it's wicked good. It's cool how they do it but they need to. I mean that's part of the appeal of the game like anyone who's listening to this show for any amount of it's like that I am. I am not a fan of four nights events that kind of people combat defense or fund this kind of storytelling that they do with the seasons. You know how they we've all the seasons together like that's really cool and really thought out but I mean and it keeps keeps viewership spikes viewership. And you know. That's the problem I think is a lot of games is they. Don't do anything to kind of reignite the the interest in the game play will speak for itself and they just let it go. It's like yes if a game is great and it looks great and it runs smoothly. There is something to be said about that speaking for itself. But you in this world that we live in now where everyone's attention span is so short onto the next thing like you need to do. Do something you need events. You need modes limited time of modes like apex. Does that are interesting and fun and they catch people's eyes is to pull them back even if it's for a month you know that's a that's a a a month that people are interested in the game whereas it could be a month more that the game is dying. You know that's basically how you have to look at it. And so I think four-night has done the best out of anyone for she kinda right behind them. Not right behind them. But apex is behind them in the sense that they've done a lot of limited time game modes which I think is fantastic. And they've worked really well palm sort of bias. Because I like this the lot more than I had like four nine anyways. But they're always interesting. Game owes they play really well. They're interesting concepts On the core Gameplay of a PECs beers need to be doing something like this because at its heart we talked about it at one hundred times. I mean it's doing the same fucking thing every time you drop in you have to do something something to spice it up a little bit. I think this one was probably I want myself is probably best done. Yeah just because of what they offered. I mean you had this awesome boy in Falcon Dogfight fight with tie fighters it lands and then some announcer guy was a donohue. Someone from epic KNOB but there's announcer guy there they have I've J.J. Abrams and his own voice and they made a character for him. Come Out and talk and then on top of all that which was pretty cool. They show a clip from the movie. That hasn't and been seen at all on a commercial spots. I'm giving it wasn't nothing bad ass but it was still cool. How they do you see a clip in a frigging game of something? You haven't seen yet on commercials I think is probably the best one that done with just with Wi- offered to show you. Yeah I think I think I think that all of that stuff definitely adds up to making it one of the better ones. And that's and that's why these events are always so great because they always do interesting things like that and they gave you fucking light sabers like they lightsabres though about game being broken out of his house. So does this box boxx was there and it opened up and I think everyone would just saber fucking lightsaber.."