Frederick Banting, University Of Toronto, Nobel Prize discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

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And then extract the the the insulin or the diabetic extract or principal from the pancreas. And so he had that idea kind of he was but different from normal or from what other have otherwise had been to this sort of suggested. Of that time. And so he was encouraged to to go to the university of Toronto he was in London the university of western Ontario. The time teaching a course kind of as as a doctor. He was petted small practice in London Ontario. Any went up to university of Toronto. Matt, Dr John MacLeod, JJ McLeod who was an expert in Cobra hydrates and physiology and sorta to convince them that this was an interesting idea, and and some MacLeod gave him lab and assistance of recent medical student physiology student Charles best and during the summer of nineteen twenty one they they were managed to follow that idea to extract the Titanic principle as our eventually called Isla ten or insulin later and figured out how to do that. And but the interesting thing, though, is that cannot laboratories was was part of the university of Toronto. Right. They're literally downstairs from the lab at Banting and best will work in. And so they had they. Worked very much on that early development right of insulin from beginning. Let me just here for saying because I should note that Frederick grant Banting won the Nobel prize in nineteen Twenty-three. Right. So this was a this was a massive discovery interns from a Canadian perspective. It's the whole issue is has much stronger resonance because it's very much part of our culture here, as you know, being sort of Canadian role on this whole story is very significant. And so and this is a price and the and the whole history of insulin is is more kind of interwoven into our history. Personal level and priced became you know, a sort of an important issue. Solicits blow this a little bit more because yes, Frederick Banting won the Nobel prize in nineteen twenty three. And I mean, so this was a discovery that that Banting and best at least we're bending at all say really recognize the importance of almost instantaneously now had a similar. Discover discovery been made in this day and age those scientists would go on to own a patent or the companies would own a patent on it and make zillions of dollars. But that is not what Banting and his cohort. Did they sold it? They sold what the the patent for insulin or or the technology or the idea of insulin to the university of Toronto for a dollar. Well, that's a bit of a mess. Okay. Essentially signed over the patent idea patents to the university. Toronto. What became insulin committee at university of Toronto? And Eddie was to do this first before a commercial company did the went ahead, and and and started to produce it themselves because and he'll idea was not to monopolize it. But to make sure it was it was handled properly by qualified people and not exploited because at that time there was a lot of pharmaceutical exploitation going on and so on and they actually university of Toronto went cannot labs work very closely with Louis nearly days they had exclusive arrangement to help develop insulin on a large scale. And and ultimately they ended up having sort of a shared patent like that would the idea was to be say anybody develops something new with insulin there'd be shared with any other producer. So there was a real real concern because insulin is a a very unique product in the sense that it's something that a diabetic depends on. On daily for the rest of their life. It's not a one shot, you know, deal Banting discovered a cure for insulin. You know, something that someone could take and they were no longer have diabetes, and that would people would pay, you know, all kinds of money for this was an ongoing issue..

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