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"I'm your host Dana Montes of real food with sina. I'm a nutritionist and body image. Coach teaching women how to heal their relationship with booth in their bodies ditch the die cycle for good and truly thrive with real food one delicious meal at a time. Hello, internet, and welcome back to episode seventy seven of the real talk with Dana podcast today. We have Caitlyn Higgins from nerdy nutritionist on the show. She is a new licensed nutritionist just finished grad school got her degrees, now she's a real person and all the things. Who is talking about her health journey with mysterious symptoms food, sensitivities intestinal permeability and how she figured out what the heck was going on with her body. We're also talking about her experience of disordered eating from starting with stuff like skipping meals and school binging, and purging, two more exit behaviors of doing multiple whole thirties in a row combined with sugar detox is an obsessing over steps on her Fitbit, and how she started to get out of those things were also talking about finding the middle ground during this podcast. So this is the kind of elusive no-man's land that exists for many people who are dealing with on the one hand, chronic health conditions that may necessitate a therapeutic diet or some kind of food restriction to prevent flare ups or some serious symptoms with autoimmune disease. So Caitlin has both Hashi motives, and ESPN Affleck is off Justice, which we're going to explain in the podcast. But at the same time these people. All also have a history of chronic dieting, maybe over exercising, or therapeutic behaviors all the way to disordered eating or eating disorders. This then becomes really tricky because not only is the complete trial and error process and a really hard space to get to this, like, elusive freedom or neutrality, or whatever you wanna call it, but it's going to look, so different for every single person depending on their background specific health issues or autoimmune conditions, the severity of your symptoms, etc. Right. And so that's one thing to keep in mind with these episode is I'm trying to have more people on the podcasts that fit this Bill of having deal dealt with both of these things. And now we're all trying to find what does this middle ground? Look like for different people. So no matter what Caitlyn or we talked about this with page when she was on the podcast to no matter what is working for them. Sure. That might work for you, but it also might look completely different. So I don't want you to take what any one person says, not only on this podcast on any other. Podcast or any other person that has this kind of experience just because that is the exact thing that's working for them, even if they do have a very similar background to you of say they have Hashi motos, and they also have this background of chronic dieting, or eating disorders, of where wherever it is, even though you have Mace, have some commonality with the symptoms that you're experiencing from the auto immune disease, or whatever it is. That doesn't mean that your general food guidelines are going to look the same even with those similarities in your health condition so little offhand topic there. But then with Caitlin stories specifically throw another massive debilitating wrench into the equation. If you have ever experienced some kind of trauma for Caitlin it was not only the stress of moving to a foreign country completely away from home and some bad breakup, but also losing her only sibling to opioid overdose. So we're chatting about how all of these things impacted her recovery. And also the most helpful resources that she used to help get through these tough times. Welcome to the podcast. So for people who have not met you before. Please introduce yourself a little bit. So you are a functional nutritionist and Rakia healer, I tell you not yourself and what that means. So I'm Caitlyn. Agains also known as be nerdy nutritionist. I recently earned my master's degree and functional nutrition from h like you and I just got my license son and my CNS. So I did. All those things and are real person. I am. Yes. Now, I can think all things. And then I also my first or my second year at age, I did level one Ricky healing. So I became certified as Ricky healer. And so what that means again. So Rakyat essentially, it was to healing practice that originated in Japan in the early nineteen hundreds and Ray means universal life force in key means essence of individual conflict Chee in acupuncture, in so what it is. It's just like noninvasive light touch on lake on the body. Obviously, you're closed in everything, and it can be for people or animals. And so it's essentially like jump starts a person's own energy like he'll link or healing system, through it aims to detect and correct any kind of energy imbalances in the mind, body and spirit. How'd you get into that Hamal? I've always sleek, not always, but like when I started really getting into light Neutra. Shannon, and like more of a holistic lifestyle I learned about Rakia few years prior to starting school. And I was so fascinated by that. And also in a lot of different spiritual healing methods in general. I was just very my mind. I was pretty lake open minded to all these different things when I heard about it a night heard that there were some people locally, who taught classes I was like I jumped on that now was like I gotta do this. And I also was looking for ways to heal myself because really raking first and foremost, his like for yourself end. That's what we were taught is to do your self Frankie practice every single day to kind of in it really made a difference in my life, cool. Awesome. Yes. So backtracking a little bit. Like, why, why did you get so interested in nutrition to the point where you will, like, yeah, this is what I wanna do like I want to become a practitioner. So it kind of took a while to get there. But so in two thousand twelve hundred thirteen I was teaching English in South Korea and. And I was either I was like at a kind of the road, I was like, I'm gonna either resign in stay here another year or I'm going to go back to the states in go get my master's degree. And I knew that I was really into. Honestly, I didn't know that. I wanted to do nutrition. But I knew that I wanted my master's in. I was like, I'm interested in food, and all this stuff, and I was looking into I'm like I just chose it. I'm going to do that. But then when I moved back to the states, I moved to Houston thinking, I was gonna do like your traditional nutritionist degree type thing. I looked it up. I didn't it didn't resonate with me like the traditional like my plate, the food pyramid. And he the live at milk and all that stuff. So I was like I can't do this. So I've been searched for schools that were more integrative in had like the same kind of mindset that I did. And from there, a just like I started kind of digging into the research in trying to heal myself, I had some kind. Kind of I developed food sensitivities in allergies, when I was about twenty years old. So it's fan. Almost a tenure journey for me to try to figure out, I guess what foods work for me and to find that food freedom, kind of thing. And so I guess that that's just kind of wet started at all was, you know, trying to heal myself looking into getting really into blogs, and, you know, Instagram and all that stuff in it, sorta falling people and I was like, oh my God. This is so pool and we can talk about it later but I was doing like the whole thirty end twenty one day sugar detox in weren't we all yet we were. But then when I when I found results for me, as far as I kind of heal myself I wasn't feeling sick all the time. I was eating really well whole foods. Yes. I did lose weight. But it wasn't like dramatic at first I felt really good about myself. And I was like I believe that I can help other people do the same thing and my biggest passion kind of above all, this working with, like adults is working with children in educating them, like working in the lunchroom's and changing the lunchroom food and stuff like that. So I'm just really passionate on that side. Yeah. Yes. So what we're the kinds of symptoms that you were experiencing that then, once you went down this rabbit hole, like research in blogs, and everything you're like, oh, these might be food sensitivities, but what was coming up for you before you figured out that, that's what it was severe physically. I was me and my girlfriend at the time we were in college, you know, we were going on all the time and eating out and drinking and all. All that stuff. And you know, I had that typical college diet lifestyle cereal op cards Rama noodles writing theory the air. Yes. Of course. And then I started every time we would go out to eat, or I would eat something I literally felt nauseous, like I might cheek started to flush. I started getting like lightheaded dizzy, and my like I was start celebrating and I needed to go throw up immediately and it was with everything, though, I mean, anything that, especially, you know, anything with cream or dairy all the bread things wine all the things it just like made me feel really bad in. So I was like, I don't know what's wrong with me. Like I couldn't keep anything down inside, eventually went to the doctor and get tested and they came back with itchy ease. So people don't know. That's like your true allergy. I was alerted to everything I felt like it was allergic to life. You know, Brad milk dairy eggs, beef pork all the all the things. But then looking back now. And with. I have that would just show that I have severe in impermeability in, you know, had some gut issues for sure. Yeah. Yes. Always going to ask, like, we know that as practitioners, but many people don't realize that when you get one of those tests back in it shows that you have a ton of food sensitivities it doesn't mean that you're actually allergic to all those foods. It just means that will one you're sensitive to them right now, but most likely because you have some leaky gutter intestinal permeability going on. And then the answer to that problem of having all these food sensitivities that are causing the symptoms is okay, let's, he'll up the gut, and then you will should be able to eat these things at least in some kind of moderation again, but then it's also backing up from that even more in saying, okay? Well, what caused the gut inflammation league he got in the first place. So were you able to figure out what that was, I would looking back up? Lutely, it was just from a very young age. I you know, my family did the best they could. But we ate vary. You know boxed every. Saying, you know, really poor quality food your hamburger helper. You know talking Denner kits. So I ate really poorly. I also used food as comfort.."