R Kelly, Spike Lee, Ron Stallworth discussed on The Frame

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So that's a reference to the videotape and about urinating on a woman. And it's getting a lot of laughs. But it feels like turning R Kelly into a punchline in some ways enables the behavior to continue. Right. I mean, it's somehow, you know, we can laugh at it. Because it's a it's a crazy overblown world where weird things happen. You know, an R Kelly kind of remade himself at one point from this like super nasty. You know, sexed up Rb guy into a spiritual singer right with I believe I can fly. So the idea that these tapes came out comedians loved it because it's like, oh my gosh. We can knock this guy off the pedestal, and it's really funny, but then where was the accountability for those young girls. And that was the piece that was missing the series has been incredibly popular on lifetime. Almost two million. People watched it in the first week, and that has translated to more attention for his music and Spotify is reporting that arc Kelly's music has increased sixteen percent, but he also still has record label. What does this have to say about popularity and what that grants you in terms of what you can get away with the interesting thing about our Kelly, which isn't the case with a lot of artists is that as these stories were starting to come out in the early two thousands, the more disturbing. I were the more has music sold. And it wasn't as if he was a huge star. When the stuff started coming out his career seemed to bump up a notch. Every time something really horrible about him would come out. And I don't wanna look at television for leadership on this issue. But Roseanne Barr puts out a racist tweet and ABC drops her show, which is the number one show on television are Kelly even if he were dropped by his record label. Somebody else would sign him right because he sells records. Yes. There seemed to be a different way of judging somebody's behavior, and I wouldn't say television is a shining example. But compared to television, the music business seems like they can learn a little bit in this. You know, serve me to era when we've been looking at all these different industries music has largely been overlooked. And this is really kind of one of the first things I would say, that's that's come out where people have gone while what is going on in this strange little, you know, ecosystem where this is. Okay. But also, you know, the music industry and the digital era. It has not done very well. So to lose a artists like R Kelly who is a catalogue artist who has so much music that they can still make a ton of. Money on. And there aren't many of those kind of artists around and they're not gonna let that go easily. The rain all the is the TV critic for the LA times, Lauren. Great to see you. Thanks for coming in good to see too. Coming up, Spike Lee shares while you put footage from Charlottesville at the end of his film, black klansman. KPCC podcasts are supported by Warner Brothers pictures, presenting the emotionally authentic. A star is born directed by Bradley Cooper. Starring Cooper, lady Gaga, and Sam Elliott, af I calls the film a stellar achievement in its own universe and Owen Gleiberman variety calls it an emotional knockout nominated for four sag awards, including outstanding performance by a cast best actor best actress and best supporting actor for consideration in all categories, including best picture and best director. Welcome back to the frame. I'm John horn, the movie black klansman directed and co written by Spike Lee has gotten some very important attention this week it just received a writers guild of America nomination for best adapted screenplay and today for the first time for the veteran filmmaker Lee was nominated for the directors guild of America's top feature film award, historically, the WG a and the DJ pigs often mirror the Academy Award nominees. Black klansman is adapt. From the memoir of Ron stallworth in the late nineteen seventies. As an undercover police officer in Colorado. He posed on the telephone as a racist white man who wanted to join the Ku Klux Klan, his police partner. Played by Adam driver, impersonated stallworth in person for face to face meetings. The film concludes with footage of the white nationalist March in Charlottesville Virginia in two thousand seventeen and the footage includes the murder of Heather hire who has run down by a car as she was peacefully protesting.

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