Green Funeral, America, Costco discussed on Omnibus! With Ken Jennings and John Roderick
Really green funerals. Anyone could have green funeral anytime you just stand out in a park a green funeral. It's green burials. Is really what we're talking about. Do you think we just were one-sentence in and you already think we've named the show. Well no I think green funeral. What is it green funeral? I mean there's Tofu in at the reception. Yeah Green Funeral. I mean all you have to do to have. Green funeral is not sitting blow gas fumes into the air now. Green burial on the other hand is a whole different candle. I would consider the barrel to be a very important part of the funeral. Well I if you're getting buried or the disposition of the body. Should we call this green disposition of giving a little glimpse behind the scenes of how sometimes it's difficult to name shows? This show has could have a lot of potential names but I feel like green funeral. That's a nice that sounds like a kinks record. It doesn't sound like green pastures bypass for some reason putting green before it really highlights the fun part of Funerals. Fun It doesn't. It doesn't seem like a Downer funeral without fun because we we've been conditioned by corporate America to think that if something has green before it's good I'm going to get that green refrigerator right so fun. Green Funeral. I'M GONNA tear down this wonderful eighteen ninety s house that's already has all the sunk. Carbon costs and rebuild it with a bunch of prefabricated wood. And it's going to be green. It's going to be Leed. Certified Cherry on the top with native grasses. It sure will it will it will. It will preserve two percents more heat. Because of it's because of its insulated windows where whereas you are the the green what three degreed musician you you buy nothing reduce reuse recycle. Go back to your drawers. Your stainless steel drawers. Things Yeah and you produce thing I buy all used things. Put the presumption that whatever environmental cost producing and distributing that thing might have incurred. Chris Grocery shopping must be rough dumpster. Diving was the thing that I did in my in my teens. And Twenties Regan ISM. It's true that I do go to. The grocery and bike can chilly. So that is newly made and the Danishes. I brought you last time where they were brand new. Speaking of those you went to Costco to buy danishes among other things Audrey and Costco did you see me coffins or yeah this is my favorite thing when you one of the things when you walk into Cosco now. Were there like you could put in Costco insulation or garage door. Why Not Take Your COA COSCO VACATION? They now do have Costco Caskets Costco Caskets. You have to get a six pack which storm in your garage. It really does show the committed. People are to the Costco lifestyle. That THEY WANNA go they WANNA take it all the way to the very end and maybe a few days beyond but also reflects a problem. Which is that. Funerals are extremely expensive. And if you are if you use a traditional sort of path where you go to a funeral home and you put your loved one in a casket intact. And then you take that casket and buried it in a burial ground each step along the way you incur a great expense and it is an up selling industry. So when you go to choose a casket even if you go in committed to getting like an affordable casket. You're going to find that. Sales is a component in in the casket purchasing period. And there's a lot of emotional appeal to a very vulnerable customer yet to someone who is mourning you know. Don't you WANNA put your loved? One in the finest casket you can afford. No one actually says we're clearly if you want. You loved him half as much him. But but that's the implication to you want to bury beloved grandad in a pine box. Or would you rather? Would you rather have this brass and copper sarcophagus? I never actually read the American way of death. You know the kind of the famous ground breaking book about the awful funeral industry right but it seeps so deeply into the public consciousness of the you almost never silent spring either but I know D. is bad. It's like we all now understand that the funeral industry is kind of awful. The American way of death which was published in nineteen sixty. Three was a book by Jessica. Mitford and it was in the style of these. Expose books that we that. We have come to love not quite not quite in the style of McDonald's hamburgers every day for six months and died but definitely one that exposed what had up until that point was just a a an unexamined component of American life. Kind of prestigious a borderline sacred. One right. Well. This is the thing. There are a lot of a religions. Have very clear. Sort of prescriptions. About how to deal with the dead and funeral homes in America understood kind of what those rituals were and provided services that that catered to to individual religions although not typically funeral homes did not typically burn like you're dead Hindu grandfather on a pyre and then sprinkled his ashes in the Ganji a few slipping the twenty. Probably probably but the you know the idea of a burial ground of a place to go and visit your dead relatives and the and in particular the idea that their remained intact for a long time there was a religious prohibition. At least the Catholic Church prohibited cremation. It felt like a desecration or if you believe in a literal resurrection right. There is a practical reason to hope that the body is intact. It's acts but I mean. Good luck with that. Yikes yeah you really. Don't want to imagine what a half decomposed body would look like if if God doesn't have the power to restore remains for example. I don't know if you don't want to imagine it. Seems like a like a popular almost twenty percent of America media now. You can't even imagine a body that stays in the cemetery like it's supposed to I can't imagine turning on episodic television without seeing a half decomposed body at this point. I just assumed that I will at some point. Come popping out of the ground with a GRUB coming out of one of my sockets. Let's JUST SAMBA. Ken Jennings that's my goal. Greens it's a You don't need anymore brains. It's it's it's funny because everybody that's what everybody wants. You know the the climate controlled box that keeps bugs and worms out. You know as as if you're buying summer house or putting in a Tuft of shadow your backyard my wife. Interestingly is terrified by that idea she her. Scariest thing in movies is when someone who is seems to be dead then opens. Their eyes comes to life. She has a real body horror reaction to anytime a corpse is back and so is she against Sarah Genyk preservation. Do if you said I'm Ken Jennings and I believe I will survive this insults off my head and put it in. Yeah. I'm dry ice in Santa Fe. I'm going to reappear on a shelf next to Richard Nixon. In FUTURE FUTURE RAMA SCENARIO. She goes beyond that she doesn't even want to be in our casket. It seems like it. Seems like a horrifying and claustrophobic moment. Okay she's also claustrophobic. Does she want to be taken immediately to the crematorium Her dream has always been to decompose. Ace App you put her on the roof and let the crows go at her. Yeah I mean I do that now but like when she's gone. She has a similar plan right. Because it literally seems horrifying the thing that seems comforting to many people to be velvet lined box. Seems awful to her and I think maybe I think she's not wrong. I mean we were told. Hey this is what a classy funeral looks like him. Because you've been on me outside of the box. Several funerals use assume. That's what you'd want on the inside but I'm I'm not that way. I'm Mr. Gimme. A pine box. This was a Eighteenth and nineteenth century horror because people routinely were buried alive. You you've heard the stories of the coffins that were fitted with little towers with a little bell in the top that even after the even after it was six feet under the the dead person could conceivably ring a bell with a string in order to alert people upstairs that they had been mistakenly buried. That is what mindy needs. Yeah I need to get an old patent medicine catalog. Dr Bonner's whatever from eighteen eighty with with Contraption with a pulley because it was in response to people when they would exuma body sometimes they would find that the inside of the coffin had been clawed by the by someone who had regained consciousness who was clawed by. There's NO PRINCE. There were actually person again. It's your classic locked room mystery you know. He's leaving the claw marks in this case. This is so so actually you know. Just a MITFORD's book. American way of death of like silence bring you know ignited a consciousness which is one of the five things you can do with the consciousness ignited. You can ignite it in within America that wait a minute. The funeral industry was this kind of bloated and exploitation of business and that there needed to be a better way but there was a lot of resistance to alternatives. There was resistance to the idea. Although you know community cemeteries backyard cemeteries. Were obviously like as old as time. The funeral industry had become very adept at lobbying. To make you know sort of a local burial or burial at sea you know to to regulate it because because they it was a it was a An industry lobbying organization and and it be it became and remains a thing that state legislatures a state senator can make a very impassioned speech on behalf of funeral directors where they use colorful language to describe how to deregulate. This funeral industry would or burial industry would result in grandma's remains being flushed down the toilet. And how could we stand this indignity and that that kind of legislation is also really supported by still by the Catholic Church and and lobbying groups of various kinds that you know that believe in the or whether they believe in or are using a desire to have a respect for the dead as a as a kind of legislative ploy to keep to keep an industry alive to me it seems like extremely low stakes no matter what grandma and her heirs want to do with Graham? That's that should be up to grandma? Apparently I'm a libertarian. Only in in this one funerary case. Well it's true. In in common law. Practice actually law does not grant survivors ownership of the body and this dates back to a time when the idea of resurrection was part of British Common Law. The assumption the assumption was that the body would be resurrected therefore in death. Ownership of your corporeal self did not transfer to your relatives at it remained with. You shouldn't shouldn't that be true. If you're going to be resurrected so you get your estate back. I don't know how it is in your family but you don't need money in heaven. Can I see your GRANDPA is very clear on is no money there? You ascend just like Archie. You leave your car behind and I guess this is probably borne out by the your strengthened by the fact that in most cases the heirs do not want legal rights to to the body. You unless you have some very specific or plan. Well that's the thing you don't Some people do do want ownership of the of the body of their relative because they wanna go do something with it. They want to do what they want. With it They get into a surfboard or something. Yeah laws are pretty the penalties for desecration of a body are pretty low and it's because you're not encouraging it. I'm not encouraging it. But also I think the state recognizes that like. Yeah you don't want to like drag a dead body through the streets but at the same time. Are we really going to? What are we going to put a person in prison? Because they did something bad with the body. Larry's weekend attorneys Frank. There are there are there are grocer things. But but also the You know the state has an interest in their not being dead bodies lying around beyond that. Yeah but yeah so I assume. There's there's a disease as an epidemiological component..