Scientist, Marco Caroline, Boston discussed on The World


Fish house. I'm Judy Woodruff. On the next news hour, we sit down with the secretary of housing and urban development. Ben Carson that's Tuesday on the PBS NewsHour. Stay with us for the news hour from PVS. It comes on after the world this afternoon at three o'clock. The time now is to twenty one. I'm Marco werman. You're with the world at this point. It's going to be weird not to talk to the world's Caroline Baylor in Antarctica. She's been there for almost two months. Reporting back to us from on board a research full of scientists studying the effects of climate change on glaciers and now they're headed back to port in Chile. So Caroline, this is gonna be our last chat while you're on board. And then you'll be Palmer. I gotta say I'm gonna miss checking in with you down in Antarctica. How you feeling I'm feeling good? I am excited to get home. Eat a giant salad and go for a run. It also feels a little surreal to be heading back to Boston and the office and seeing everyone again, it it kind of feels like this is just my life now. So it's kind of strange that it's going to be ending and a handful of days. Well, you'll be happy to see that. None of us have changed. I hope everything's the same. When I get back. What is the mood on board? As is. Void wraps up. People are definitely excited to be heading home. I some of the scientists down here what they are most looking forward to you about getting home and university of Alabama PHD student, Victoria, FitzGerald was excited to see her ten month old daughter, I left and she was barely crawling. And now she's like standing up by yourself and stuff university of Gothenburg researcher. Alexandra Mazar is looking forward to some uninterrupted sleep at home in complete silence. No snow is heating. That is can be pretty noisy hitting the ship and Peter she hand from the university of East Anglia is looking forward to a couple of the little things that I'm looking for glass of wine. I'm looking forward to my bet. Again, I am looking forward to just those little things like like cycling to work can little routines of daily life that you don't really realize that you'd miss perhaps until you don't have them anymore. So when we spoke just before you left. Caroline, one of the things you were worried about was going stir crazy or fuelling board on the ship. Did that ever happen? Oh my gosh. That was not a problem at all. There was so much going on on the ship. Twenty four seven literally that I wanted to cover that I needed to learn about I've watched half a movie while I've been down here. I've read a couple of books, but really there's been almost no downtime. Did you develop any new daily routines that you think might be hard to kick when you're back in Boston? Oh, that's a good question. I will miss going up to the bridge in the evening and just looking out at the natural, beauty, and whatever were passing. So it wasn't like the astounding beauty of these glaciers ever got ho- home for you. It wasn't like, oh, there's another mammoth. Glacier, whatever. No. It wasn't. And everything looks different. I mean every iceberg is is unique. Like every snowflake is unique. And I've seen humpback whales breaching and the other day we saw a giant group that feels swimming which was something I hadn't seen yet in such large numbers. There were hundreds of them. So looking out the window never got boring or blase? So caroline. I'm always kicking myself when I get somewhere new, and I've neglected to bring that one key piece of gears or something you really wished you'd brought with you. But didn't I would have brought my big puffy code from Boston because parkas are part of the standard issue that you pick up at the warehouse when you're getting ready to deploy. And the folks at the warehouse were telling us, no, you're okay. Their coats on the ship. But what's on the ship? Are these float coats so their coats and flotation devices in one so they're very hard to like move in a very, bulky? So I wish I would have had a regular coat that I could throw on whatever I wanted. So one more listener question for you Carolyn that I understand you've been working on answering. This question comes from. Jan Kramer, who listens to the world on K UT in Austin, Texas, and Jen asked how the scientists on the ship deal with the emotional impact of their work on climate change. Yeah. That's something. I've been asking people for the past several weeks, and I put together a little report on it. And I was actually surprised by the range of reactions. I got some people said they weren't panicked by climate change. They were more professionally curious other people did give answers I was expecting a bit more like they found it daunting or depressing. That was the word that keyboard to loto used when I think about everything not only climate change. So when I think about all the issues that we have I get to be the press, really. He's a marine ecologist at the university of Saint Andrews in Scotland, and he is particularly worried when he thinks about his two year old son. We still have the feeling that he just arrived in this world. And when my wife, and I we talk about this wondering if he's going to be happy with the issues that they were has also worries about the fate of his hometown. He's from a low lying coastal city in Brazil. But he says he's really careful not to let these feelings interfere with his work. What I'm doing my job? I'm not thinking that my hometown will be underwater. I'm thinking that this is a global issue that I need to help to understand. That's the kind of thing I heard from nearly everyone down here for activists and policymakers emotion can be a really important way to spur people to take action on climate change. But these scientists are trained put their emotions aside. They don't cloud the analytical thinking that's central to their work. Here's how Alexandra Mazar who researches sea ice. That's weans university of Goth. Sandberg put it when we were sitting on the floor for cabin. I'm just trying to be very new child to analyze the results property because if you include emotional center that biased back at home, some people say they feel helpless when they think about climate change. But that's not something I heard down here. And I think that's at least partly because the scientists here feel like they can actually do something about climate change by studying it and helping figure out what lies ahead that's part of what motivated Rachel Clark to start a PHD at the university of Houston. If there's an issue. I don't like belabouring how difficult it is. I just want to find a solution. So maybe I just sort of transfer my emotions into action when it comes to climate change getting PHD in geology and shipping out to Antarctica is clearly not how everyone's going to cope with their feelings about climate change. But LARs, Bouma strategy that might be a little more doable going outside appreciating every day. And. He says that helps sometimes and then you have moments where you listen to news, and you hear a change in policies. And you think like why are they doing that? We know better, and that's very depressing. I think as a scientist, then you go outside and have another walk, and then you worry about your children, and what you leave them. And it's up and down all the time. Scientists LARs Bouma they're talking about the emotional ups and downs of climate change research. So Caroline dealers. I said you're coming back to Boston from Antarctica. How is this trip impacted you and how you think about climate change and thinking about two main things right now Marco the first is how difficult it is to know and gathered data about climate change in places like Antarctica took seven years for the scientists and a Volen to get the robotic submarine that she just resembled to fend down under the floating shelf of tweets. It takes a full day sometimes to find a seal to put a tag on that will track ocean temperature going forward. So. It takes a lot of work to get this. Really good data that will help us figure out. What's coming in the future? And the other thing that I've been thinking about is once the scientists on this ship right up the findings right up the data that they've gathered and publish it. What happens next and how we use? That information is not up to these scientists it's up to policymakers and the public. So I've been thinking a lot about what needs to happen next. If this information is actually going to have a real world impact and help people better prepare for future. The world's Caroline Baylor from the Southern Ocean. Now heading to port Carolyn. Can I just say it has been great living vicariously through you for these past couple of months and enjoy your for salad back. If thank you Marco Caroline's been sending us behind the scenes pictures from the ship like the time, she wrapped her microphone in plastic and lowered it overboard by rope to get.

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