Listen: Jim Crow, Van Hood, Black Church discussed on The Majority Report with Sam Seder
"Historians like everyone hiccup though, who's from harbor talked about the politics, the -bility, as one example, and what she was really talking about her work and assessment of middle class, black women within. Black and black people within a sort of south during the civil rights movement within the church was about how some of them over like tried to compensate where the the, the view that the dehumanizing view that white racist had of the Jim crow style. Overly accommodating for things. So in other words, like you know, there was a way in which they would say things like we have to be respectable, right? We have. I know they don't think we're fully humid are worthy of of of of of having equitable access under Jim crow state that we don't deserve to be drinking wooder looking at us like monsters, but if we go on here and so that we're just smart that we just as fine at our families are just as quote unquote together, right then we could be seen as being equal, play field play, but and this is what I hear you saying that sometimes the response to the the failure of society to welcome and the create equitable space for people. It's a somehow overperform overcompensate what I will say though the the quick point that's always say, like, you know, well, of course you have the black church. That's, you know, this is an example. This is sort of a rationale for homophobia. President? Well, black community are hip hop as a site toxic masculinity there for this is seen evidence that black folk somehow maintain that. But part of what that does is is sort of ground in type of cough, Pat on vacation. There's idea the black because drag somehow at the, you know, more overly hyper masculine masking is and and more homophobic than others. Quick quick that I'm trying to make is that. If we don't think about the context which this country thinks about masculinity and van hood and who was considered real men before black book considered anything human and think about the context who which we get these messages and how does MRs filtered through all of the things you said. Then we do a disservice, but but I think you're right and saying that like the, you know that in context with which one has to contend with all of these prevailing ideas about what it means to be something like a traditional family for crying out loud, right that you do sometimes try to overcompensate by filling filling in the blanks, widowed, ideas, if that makes sense. So I, I am. I am a student of history and it makes to be, and it's also, I mean it also strikes me as being, you know, this is the one, I guess, attribute of. Of a an elevated social hierarchy that you have access to. Right? Like. You know, at least I'm a man and, and so I'm going to, I'm going to go to that well hard because, yeah. That's right about that in a book it right? Like how, but but part of what I think is the answer is deviate from that is to to to understand that as a process and to figure out what it means to be different. I now say like, I'm not interested in being a better. Man are a non-toxic fan are man who's not performance talks back. I am trying to be better. He would be, you know what I mean, who's free from all of those boxes, which for many can be cages anyway by cages on these van hood and asking entity that that our prison sales for people and I don't always think does does, I think, does more harm than good at sometimes. Let's talk about urine activists in the black lives matter movement. And I'm, I'm curious as to your perspective on how the movement is. Has had to react to this sort of different era where you know from from from when it I emerged. So the Mouton's for black lives like any movement, you know is it shifts movement shift, and they control it and they, you know, if we're gonna is are, are are paying attention will shift things according to what the needs of the people are, which two minutes representing. So you know, movement for black lives, which is considered the of variety of different organizations across the country. And now really across the world who are interested, not an racial Justice, transformative racial Justice, not only just crew, the ending of racism, but if so much else that's is an economic mutation and much so much work done.."